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lathebault

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:01 am    Author: lathebault    Post subject:

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And I think in each of those two cases it was just a mistake - Sylvia, who did it twice before, was just the clumsiest contestant in game show history!


Never saw that one, did she get any laughs from the audience :P and the host for that matter

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Michael DeVere

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:23 pm    Author: Michael DeVere    Post subject:

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£190,000 exactly indeed, and that was WONDERFUL because it wasn't spoiled and I didn't know the answer and it was SO EXCITING!


Same here.

I didn't know the answer (I had a feelinng it was C) and when Liz placed her chips 3 chips on A, B & C and Rob put his only chip left on D, I was on the edge of my seat hoping that he got it right.

Rob also had £25,000 secured, so in total his winnings was £215,000. Well done Rob!

Also did anyone notice when Liz played an accelerator on the first question the jackpot displayed £190,000 instead of £184,000. Though after the question, due to 6 chips going, it did bring the jackpot to £190,000.


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Simon F

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:46 pm    Author: Simon F    Post subject:
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Also did anyone notice when Liz played an accelerator on the first question the jackpot displayed £190,000 instead of £184,000. Though after the question, due to 6 chips going, it did bring the jackpot to £190,000.


Probably just a case of some dodgy editing with the wide shot of the contestants - using a shot earlier than they should have.


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NoelsFan

PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:14 pm    Author: NoelsFan    Post subject:
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I noticed that! But I really like the show! It has a great mix of gambling and general knowledge!


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Michael DeVere

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 3:29 pm    Author: Michael DeVere    Post subject:

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Just to remind everyone that this Saturday Duel is on at the earlier time of 7:50pm and is the last in the current series.


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suszie

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:57 pm    Author: suszie    Post subject:
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Another jackpot winner, near the end when he was on his fourth duel it was quite obvious he was going to win it, being the last in the series.

Scrapping the percentage chip and pound chip after completing their second duel was the right thing to do, otherwise that jackpot would never had been won.


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tr4962

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:07 pm    Author: tr4962    Post subject:

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Another jackpot winner, near the end when he was on his fourth duel it was quite obvious he was going to win it, being the last in the series.

Scrapping the percentage chip and pound chip after completing their second duel was the right thing to do, otherwise that jackpot would never had been won.


It was probably fixed, and yes i was obvious he was going to win being the end of the series, shame the jackpot had to go to such an irritating person


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Simon F

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:38 pm    Author: Simon F    Post subject:
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tr4962 wrote:
suszie wrote:
Another jackpot winner, near the end when he was on his fourth duel it was quite obvious he was going to win it, being the last in the series.

Scrapping the percentage chip and pound chip after completing their second duel was the right thing to do, otherwise that jackpot would never had been won.


It was probably fixed, and yes i was obvious he was going to win being the end of the series, shame the jackpot had to go to such an irritating person


Not fixed but the questions could have been manipulated so that they made sure the show ran towards the end of the alloted time for the show today. Same way that in the last of the series of Millionaire, I'm sure they sometimes substitute higher value questions so that the player either takes the money or loses.


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wokoman88

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:45 pm    Author: wokoman88    Post subject:

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What were Duel's ratings like for the later episodes? I know they were bad at first, Robert's win was the highest of the series up to that point (what did it actually get?) , did they stay high or drop lower again?

Just wondering on how likely it is to come back.. ;)

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travis P

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:51 pm    Author: travis P    Post subject:

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What were Duel's ratings like for the later episodes? I know they were bad at first, Robert's win was the highest of the series up to that point (what did it actually get?) , did they stay high or drop lower again?

Just wondering on how likely it is to come back.. ;)


They dropped back down to around 3.4/5 million. Last night's managed 3.6 million. Robert's episode had the peak rating for the entire series. The reality is the show wasn't getting the ratings compared to the ratings Millionaire and PokerFace were getting last year which was averaging around 5-6 million.


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wokoman88

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:59 pm    Author: wokoman88    Post subject:

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wokoman88 wrote:
What were Duel's ratings like for the later episodes? I know they were bad at first, Robert's win was the highest of the series up to that point (what did it actually get?) , did they stay high or drop lower again?

Just wondering on how likely it is to come back.. ;)


They dropped back down to around 3.4/5 million. Last night's managed 3.6 million. Robert's episode had the peak rating for the entire series. The reality is the show wasn't getting the ratings compared to the ratings Millionaire and PokerFace were getting last year which was averaging around 5-6 million.


So should we be none too hopeful over it's return? Or will it get a second chance in a different slot? Weaver's week on Ukgameshows suggested swapping it with Millionaire's Tuesday night slot...

(Digressing slightly because you mention it there :D is Pokerface likely to make a return. I was wondering because it's page on Itv.com has gone..)

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travis P

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:12 pm    Author: travis P    Post subject:

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wokoman88 wrote:
So should we be none too hopeful over it's return? Or will it get a second chance in a different slot? Weaver's week on Ukgameshows suggested swapping it with Millionaire's Tuesday night slot...

(Digressing slightly because you mention it there :D is Pokerface likely to make a return. I was wondering because it's page on Itv.com has gone..)


I've always said the format is good and got potential but it doesn't suit Saturday night primetime. Watching three shows where nothing was won due to the contestants not actually playing for any money hasn't helped.

I'm not sure if having the show on Tuesday will work. I cannot see it myself. I always felt the best way is to have it as a stripped series (like Millionaire back then, running nightly for two weeks) or have it moved to daytime, use the 5pm slot when Golden Balls is off air and offer 20% of the cash prizes given away now (£20K starting jackpot, £200 per chip).

I can't see PokerFace returning since it's expensive for the channel to give away £1.4 million for a short series. You can see why Duel had to bring in a sponsor and a LTL half way through the series, as they gave away over £800,000.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:12 am    Author: DoNDFan    Post subject:
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Is there a site I can view videos of UK Duel, or does anyone have videos then can send via email? I really want to see an episode!! :-D


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:45 pm    Author: £250,000 fan    Post subject: Re: DUEL
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I love Duel too, does anybody know when Duel starts again? :D

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:37 pm    Author: crazyeddie    Post subject: Re: DUEL
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The main problem I found with Duel, was that the action felt too slow. Nick Hancock may like to add suspense, but it felt as though he was dragging things out. Millionaire works because there is considerable risk/reward on each action, and people think of what they would do in the same situation. But in a competition, faster action tends to make for better viewing, especially when not every decision in Duel is as critical.

The format would work better as a 30-45 minute show, and with less money in play. On the one hand, there was considerable amount of money in the jackpot, but players tended to take the money and run at the first opportunity. The rules were then changed, and there were several jackpot winners in a row, turning the balance the other way.

I have some ideas on how to improve Duel itself. These ideas can be used freely, I permanently and irrevocably waive all rights associated with this message and the ideas contained within.

When you win a game of Duel, instead of winning a cash prize, you win a chip with a certain value of money. This chip can be used as a backup chip, so that you can continue playing if your run into trouble.

The values of the chips are as follows:

After 1st game: £2,500 chip
After 2nd game: £5,000 chip
After 3rd game: £10,000 chip

So on your 4th game, you can have accumulated up to 3 backup chips, as well as the 10 game chips. Backup chips can be used to cover possible answers on the machine.

If you lose a game, you win the combined total of the backup chips you have remaining. So if you win two games, lose your third, and have used no backup chips, then you win £7,500.

When a backup chip is used and placed on a wrong answer, the chip falls into the machine, and the jackpot increases by the chip's value. Using a backup chip can be expensive, as it decreases your winnings if you place it on the wrong answer. There is no obligation to play any backup chips if the player doesn't want to.

When a backup chip is placed on the right answer, then after the question's completed, the chip pops back up, just like a usual chip. It makes sense to put a backup chip on the most likely answer to the question.

The jackpot starts at £20,000, and increase in stages of £500. This means that the jackpot can become high, but not too high for the production team to risk a large amount of money. Lower amounts of money have also worked well in Deal or No Deal, as people associate more with the contestants when they watch them making similar decisions to their own.

Duel's a format that I'd like to see again, just a bit faster this time! :)


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KP

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:26 pm    Author: KP    Post subject: Re: DUEL
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Interesting proposed ruleset. The backup chip is a great tactical addition, and the budget seems right for a daily show - it is a requirement these days to dangle a life-changing potential prize at daytime contestants while actually keeping the budget drastically down, and a rolling jackpot works here.

I did like the changed rules mid-series as it meant that a brilliant contestant would win the jackpot even if he had Ben Miller's attitude to risk. Given that this is fundamentally a game of skill, that appeals to me. However, the string of jackpot winners certainly hurt, especially as Robert won a jackpot that had accumulated in part by people walking away with ten grand earlier in the series when they may have gone on to win two more Duels if they had no bailout option.

A simpler way to increase the pace while keeping the psychological element of the game (which I enjoyed, and feel is the best reason to keep the pace down a bit); give each player three, not two, Accelerators.

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Michael DeVere

PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:39 pm    Author: Michael DeVere    Post subject: Re: DUEL

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Strangely I was talking about this show the other day. I enjoyed this show (in fact I think I still have a couple of episodes from the show somewhere on DVD), but it never seemed to take off ratings wise. Even when they near enough gave away in a trailer that someone was going to win the jackpot, or at least reach that point, they didn't increase much there after either.

I presume it's not coming back then which is a shame. Maybe a lowered jackpot and a few tweaks with the show and it could be used in ITV1's daily 5pm slot when GoldenBalls is not being shown as suggested by travis.


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jivealex

PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:22 pm    Author: jivealex    Post subject: Re: DUEL
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i prefered the film tbh

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