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Simon F

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:04 am    Author: Simon F    Post subject: Re: 05/08 Nong
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Will get around to watching this show when I get home from London (or when a non flash video is uploaded - not on YouTube 4od yet sadly)

Sounds an amazing game though.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:08 am    Author: sonicrules    Post subject: Re: 05/08 Nong

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Fantastic game, not sure at all how she got to the final 2 boxes, as Noel said she did almost nothing but cry bless her heart!! Gorgeous lady, really adorable and extremely brave too, I thought Noel was a bit out of order dragging the 2 of the questions out, especially the last one, he could see she was a wreck (wouldn't we all be), and on the verge of totally losing it, but he just kept on talking I'm saying JUST OPEN THE BLEEP BOX lol I spent most of the game wanting to give her a hug and reassure her she was doing fine, it was hard to watch my favourite contestant on the wings in such distress, well played Nong!!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:33 am    Author: Dr. Hindsight    Post subject: Re: 05/08 Nong

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For those interested, Nong's game is now available in its entirety on YouTube. Click the link below to relive this most wonderful game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFuW7URRezQ

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:11 am    Author: BankerSpanker    Post subject: Re: 05/08 Nong
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Mad Mark wrote:
For those interested, Nong's game is now available in its entirety on YouTube. Click the link below to relive this most wonderful game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFuW7URRezQ

This video contains content from Channel 4, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

So that video gets blocked even though I'M IN THE UK!! :evil:

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:41 am    Author: KP    Post subject: Re: 05/08 Nong
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Yes, I personally wouldn't have gone all the way there but I'm perfectly happy for someone else to as long as they can live with their choice.


Actually I'm oddly enough more critical of the decisions on those grounds than I am on mathematical grounds. But I suspect she wouldn't much have been able to cope with selling the £250k either. Emotional contestants play the game in a completely different space to you or me, and I think Nong was practically impervious to offer generosity, not so much in a reckless way (even though as it turned out she did take the box) but in the fact it simply didn't register. The whole game from 8-box seemed to be "it's so much money! But the £250k is still there! What the hell do I do?" and the rest of the board was basically background noise.

You or me would have just had a straightforward game of "£17k decent, should be worth chasing... there we go, good round, should be generous enough to deal now... yup, there we go... oh well, better this than a blue." And it wouldn't have been half as enjoyable for the average viewer, albeit largely because of what was on the table ;)

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:54 am    Author: KP    Post subject: Re: 05/08 Nong
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By the way, I'm completely with Jack/hogwild in his point about hoping this doesn't influence Noel and/or the upcoming players. My take on it would probably be "I don't know how on earth Nong did it, but she did it, and now the question is how on earth the Banker reacts," or something along those lines.

And it is now the case that the average number of No Deals per £250k winner is exactly six, but only Laura and Tegen actually did "say No Deal six times"; Alice did so only three times, Suzanne eight, and Nong seven.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:16 pm    Author: James1978    Post subject: Re: 05/08 Nong

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I've got to add the term "reckless" has been mentioned quite often but in all truth, the first three £250k wins all came about by not the player but the banker making what could be termed as reckless decisions:

Only offering Laura £45k at 2-box
Giving Alice the Banker's Gamble when from a saving money point of view it made no sense
Ensuring Suzanne's game got past 5-box by giving her joke offers before then, than there was nothing he could do when she was left with all power 5's after taking out the last blue.

Even Tegen should arguably have been offered much more at 2-box given he's offered Morris and Bunney 6 figures on the same finish!!!

So essentially for a £250k win to occur, one side has simply got to take at least one big risk.

Let's just all be glad this one for massive stakes fell the right way!

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Charles

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:08 pm    Author: Charles    Post subject: Re: 05/08 Nong

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unclekevo wrote:
Charles wrote:
killersbee wrote:
And it's been won in box 4 as well, I bet a certain Wakey is happily dancing around somewhere. :P

This one deserves to be game of the month!


I think the game of the month should be given to a player who makes sensible decisions.


Was it you in the chair? No so it's really irrelevant whether or not you think she made a sensible decision, she took a risk, it was her risk to take and it paid off, by your logic then none of the £250k winners should be congratulated because they didn't take 'sensible decisions'.


There is no doubt about it that it was not a sensible decision, it happened to pay off but that is just because she was lucky and no other reason. We can congratulate Suzanne and Tegan who both had the board to go on as they had a decent enough fallback if the jackpot was not on the table.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:56 pm    Author: JustAThought    Post subject: Re: 05/08 Nong

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Oh my goodness Charles, if all players played to your very strict script, it would be a very dull show indeed! You take no account of personality or even the person playing whatsoever. It is how individuals play that is the essence of the show. It's not called "Only Sensible Deals or No Deal" - I fancy that game wouldn't inspire half as much debate!


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:54 pm    Author: KP    Post subject: Re: 05/08 Nong
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James1978 wrote:
I've got to add the term "reckless" has been mentioned quite often but in all truth, the first three £250k wins all came about by not the player but the banker making what could be termed as reckless decisions:

Only offering Laura £45k at 2-box
Giving Alice the Banker's Gamble when from a saving money point of view it made no sense
Ensuring Suzanne's game got past 5-box by giving her joke offers before then, than there was nothing he could do when she was left with all power 5's after taking out the last blue.

Even Tegen should arguably have been offered much more at 2-box given he's offered Morris and Bunney 6 figures on the same finish!!!

So essentially for a £250k win to occur, one side has simply got to take at least one big risk.

Let's just all be glad this one for massive stakes fell the right way!


You're absolutely right - the only reason we had no remotely "Wakeyist" £250k wins until yesterday was because the Banker made three massive mistakes and one lesser one. You can say this is the first 'undeserved' £250k win if you're ferociously conservative about the game like, say, Charles, but really this was the first £250k win the Banker wasn't utterly to blame for!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:06 pm    Author: Moxx of Balhoom    Post subject: Re: 05/08 Nong

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You know as brave/reckless (delete as appropriate) that final No Deal may have been Nong still fits the profile of £250k winners in that she really was the last person on the wings you would have expected to go all the way. My statement still stands that it's the quiet ones the Banker has to watch.

There was nothing in Nong's charecter that said she was going to chase the money or that she'd in anyway be a bold player of the game, but a good (if not great) board carried her along to the point of no return and when it came to the crunch her belief was too overwhelming to be ignored.

All completely illogical from a pragmatic POV but it's nice to be reminded this is a game of the heart as much as the head

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:34 pm    Author: bb67    Post subject: Re: 05/08 Nong
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Two words describe that victory: Pure Bravery.

And for that reason, she deserves this success, incredible guts for turning down not just one critical one, but several offers in that game, fully deserves to be number 5.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:58 am    Author: jamie9456    Post subject: Re: 05/08 Nong
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Very belated, but I am currently on holiday in the US so was gutted to miss the game.

Many thanks to Hogwild as usual for providing some outstanding commentary- it was just as nail-biting online!!!

So pleased for her and just for the fact that this long time myth that there won't be any more QM winners has been demolished.

Get in and here's to a male winner to come (hopefully me!)

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:29 pm    Author: h2005    Post subject: Re: 05/08 Nong
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I'm also away at the moment but I lucky managed to watch this show, and I must admit I made an extra effort to watch it because of the banker's hints on Twitter. Whilst he sometimes makes hints, he never actually spoils the result of a game (although obviously his hints give away the fact that it's going to be a 'big' game), so whilst I guessed the player would go for the jackpot, I had no idea whether it'd be won or not. Before the show, I thought the most likely outcome would be that a male would go for it and fail (how wrong I was!).

Congratulations to Nong - it was about time a big gamble for the jackpot paid off (following the failed gambles of Corinne, Gurpal, etc)! It's a shame this game had to fall on a key day of the Olympics though, as the viewing figures must've suffered... maybe they should've had a summer break after all...

The only thing is that this is probably going to make Noel even more obsessed with the lack of male jackpot winners. He's already been obsessed for over 3 years! :lol:

Also a BIG thanks to hogwild94, psychokiller, Mark, Brick, jamie9456 for providing the commentaries over the last few weeks - it's greatly appreciated. :D :smt023

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:42 pm    Author: unclekevo    Post subject: Re: 05/08 Nong
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Moxx of Balhoom wrote:
You know as brave/reckless (delete as appropriate) that final No Deal may have been Nong still fits the profile of £250k winners in that she really was the last person on the wings you would have expected to go all the way. My statement still stands that it's the quiet ones the Banker has to watch.

There was nothing in Nong's charecter that said she was going to chase the money or that she'd in anyway be a bold player of the game, but a good (if not great) board carried her along to the point of no return and when it came to the crunch her belief was too overwhelming to be ignored.

All completely illogical from a pragmatic POV but it's nice to be reminded this is a game of the heart as much as the head


To be fair, Nong wasn't anywhere near as quiet as the others, she was quite bubbly on the wings but I agree that I wouldn't have expected her to go all the way

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:57 pm    Author: Moxx of Balhoom    Post subject: Re: 05/08 Nong

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True, personality wise she was perhaps more outgoing than her fellow jackpot winners, but like them there was no real bravado on Nong's part, she wasn't a constant no dealer on the wings, she didn't have that 'all or nothing' mentality and on a different day I suspect she might have quite happily walked away with a much more modest sum. She just happened to be called up on the right day, when she felt her luck was in

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:13 am    Author: beaker    Post subject: 05/08 Nong
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Only just watched this as I've been away since Sunday morning and I can honestly say what a game, what a win for Nong.

How did she do it though, I'm amazed she found the courage to go for it, turning down the £34k was the big decision for me, when she got to two box I'd have no dealt but probably wouldn't have got that far!!

I see our resident troll and Daily Mail reader is bemoaning the fact that someone won the jackpot, which at the end of the day is what the show is all about!

Well played Nong!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:49 am    Author: BankerSpanker    Post subject: Re: 05/08 Nong
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:11 pm    Author: Charles    Post subject: Re: 05/08 Nong

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Two words describe that victory: Pure Bravery.

And for that reason, she deserves this success, incredible guts for turning down not just one critical one, but several offers in that game, fully deserves to be number 5.


She may be brave but lacks the judgement to know when to accept an offer. In order for someone to deserve to be number five they need to make sensible decisions, and that cannot be said for this game.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:18 pm    Author: number5    Post subject: Re: 05/08 Nong

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Just wanted to take the time and thank EVERYONE who has supported me and had such lovely things to say since my game!! this has changed my life and I had such a strong belief!!

I repect the criticism but all I want to say is I appreciated every offer that was given to me!! But the moment and instinct somehow pushed me to the end! it was purely a follow your heart beleive in your luck kinda game! I was scared all the way through! but my determination pushed me to the end its a once in a life time opportunity, its so hard to explain as no one will ever know once you are in that chair!! its amazing what it does to you! Although it was my decision, I believe fate decides your destiny and am so lucky and grateful that this has been my outcome!

Thanks again for watching and thanks to the deal fans who are genuinely happy for me! :) I am so happy and I can finnally treat my mum and thank her and also start my life

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