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James1978

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 5:46 pm    Author: James1978    Post subject:

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alexandercbrown wrote:
To add to the comments again I'm getting worried about this show again - people just 'see' moderate/lowish offers and don't analyse the board , not making more of an attempt to go for the huge money.


Absolutely - I think Jimbo was seeing the lowest 3 values as all being rubbish, whereas in fact a good reader of the board would see them as good safety nets. Might be different when you get to 2-box though...

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alexandercbrown

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 5:50 pm    Author: alexandercbrown    Post subject:

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Yeah, I'm not saying 10K isn't a lot of money - it is - but there was a 15K fallback and the 2 oranges were there.

A deal for 25K would have more acceptable because at least he'd have given it a go.

He just seemed overdesperate for the 10K.


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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:21 pm    Author: basicasic    Post subject:
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It was apparent as early as the 2nd offer that Jimbo had no comprehension or understanding of the board whatsoever. £15k was pathetic for that board but as he gushed 'I thought it would be lower' the Banker must have been wetting himself laughing. But at least he no-dealt it. Despite the 'quickie from hell' round he arrived at 8 box in a dream situation. Quite why he needed a sweep with that board beats me but it was obvious he wanted out and it was only the fact that everyone on the wings said no-deal that he carried on.

The deal, when it inevitably came was pathetic. With a minimum of £500 on the board he had every excuse to go for it and the £10,000 offer was just downright degrading. The Banker had his number no mistake. It was abysmally bad and egged-on by his equally sapless girlfriend he made the classic no-backbone grab-the-money-and-run deal.

The £100k in his box just cemented his deserved complete embarrassment and humiliation. You only get chances like this once in a lifetime. He blew it big time.

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:32 pm    Author: thundercat    Post subject:

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h2005 wrote:
Oh no... now his girlfriend's crying! Why?


What? Do you even have to ask??? He blew £100,000!!!! For what, 10k.


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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:50 pm    Author: SrWilson    Post subject:
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ITS MY FAULTY WAHHH :lol:

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StatsMan

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:35 pm    Author: StatsMan    Post subject:

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alexandercbrown wrote:
To add to the comments again I'm getting worried about this show again - people just 'see' moderate/lowish offers and don't analyse the board , not making more of an attempt to go for the huge money.


That's the trouble when we've had 2 games this week where the player has gone on in a 1-box game and it hasn't paid off - it returns the show to the caution cycle again. It's been a pretty strange week all round, really (not least because I saw 2 of the shows 3 months ago!).

I quite liked Jimbo, and the game was looking very strong at one point with the entire power 5 and 7 of the top 8 values remaining at the halfway stage. Then he had a quickie, which was pretty disastrous, and he seemed to lose his nerve. He seemed to be dwelling on the boxes that had just gone, rather than reflecting on the potential of the board he had, which with a £500 minimum prize and 4 reds, was surely value enough to go on.

Again, it depends on what you're there for - a modest but decent sum or a once-in-a-lifetime chance at the mega money. Jimbo just wanted a decent sum, and that's a way of playing the game. Not the way I would play it, but a legitmate strategy nonetheless. I would like to see more analysts on the show, though (where have they all gone? the last proper one was probably Ed, and even he got the odds wrong at the end!)

It's just a shame that lately, the ones that have been courageous enough to go for the big money have had trainwrecks finishes and the ones who exercise caution miss out on the mega money, leaving an uncertainty of what to do for the best, and the banker as chief manipulator.

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:17 am    Author: Big D    Post subject:

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Aaron Brock wrote:
Stand up if you would like A MINIMUM of £25,000 in your bank account on Monday morning...
Stand up if you would like £100,000 in yuor bank account on Monday morning...
Stand up if you think that his partner should've STFU because she forced him to deal...

I stand to all of those, and with a guaranteed £25,000 for an almost coin-flip of a decision, was pretty foolish. Okay ga,e bad ending, and good use of the heartbeat at 6box and 3box.


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Big D

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:20 am    Author: Big D    Post subject:

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that was quite boring, the quickie seemed to drain the energy out of it, after that there was no tension at all. it was so obvious his bottle was crashing big time, and as soon as the girl friend almost demanded he deal, the writing was on the wall for train wreck!

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:22 am    Author: Big D    Post subject:

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"I need the toilet" - best bit of advice ever.


I know I said find another way of getting attention, but that was a bit extreme!!

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h2005

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:24 am    Author: h2005    Post subject:
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I think the Tommii toilet thing came at the wrong part in the game really as it was when Jimbo was clearly agonising over the offer... and I don't think Jimbo could really give a toss about what was going on with Tommii, judging from his reaction. I didn't find that bit of the show that amusing, but I can see why people might find it funny.

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Big D

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:35 am    Author: Big D    Post subject:

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yeah,w e were all saying the same thing watching it here, it was a bad moment, but by then Jimbo seemed to have lost it anyway.

wonder if Tomii changed his nappii...

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Michael DeVere

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:31 am    Author: Michael DeVere    Post subject:

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When Noel revealed that Jimbo comes from my hometown and works just a few miles up the road from me I was hoping that Jimbo would do well and whilst £10,000 isn't a bad result, it could of been a whole lot more.

I can see why he dealt at £10,000 with there only being one big amount left on the board. But with a nice selection of smaller reds also available and the guarntee of £25,000 as the next offer if the £100,000 remained I think that he should of taken a gamble to 2-box, which i'm pretty sure he would of dealt at (I would) if he had gone on.

I have liked Jimbo whilst he's been on the wings and I liked him in today's game. It's just a shame he didn't go one more round.


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dougal18

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 7:19 am    Author: dougal18    Post subject:

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Surely a £3,000/£15,000 finish would be worth £8k?

Given that I really wasn't paying attention at the time (I might have had one of those beloved sob stories to tell) that now seems a bad deal.

Jimbo had the big one but I doubt he would have claimed it. Very few people gamble on an all or nothing finale.


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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:06 am    Author: KP    Post subject:
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Here comes my usual comment: if you're going to play it safe do it properly. Jimbo's true preference was for a Deal at £12,500 surely - certainly if you go with the 'if you're not sure, Deal' philosophy (as I do). As it is, he Dealt £10,000 and would probably have gone for four figures if an orange had gone instead of the 1p. The girlfriend influence comments... funny how they only come out when a No Deal would have been the right option, isn't it? I wouldn't bring anyone onto my show, but that's because I live on my own and the financial decisions are hence entirely singular (not to mention the fact I understand the game better than probably anyone else I know). If you're living with someone, though, then chances are at least some of your finances are shared, and the implication is therefore that financial decisions - like these - should be taken jointly. Sure, the contestant was Jimbo, the money's gone into his bank account, but they'll be living with the money (and the implications of how they got it) together. How many of you would have said the same thing if it finished as a £500/orange final two? Anyone who wouldn't is an incredible hypocrite, and I think that's at least half of you, with some of the rest being people who plain don't understand the value of money.

Anyway. Would have been a pretty straightforward £25k for me (and I'd have treated it as an OPW with my always-swap philosophy). I'm definitely chasing the £100k for one more round with the Power 5 backups at eight-box, and the drop would have done it for me at 5-box as the oranges - and the loss of the 1p - made a four-figure result a near-certainty. £25k would have been a Deal with only £500 backing it up, though if there was £3k I'd have been extremely tempted to go for it (and at £15k, I'm looking for £40k minimum, probably closer to £50k).

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:49 pm    Author: harryfielder    Post subject:
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Too soon...for too little.... :oops:

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:16 pm    Author: Tom    Post subject:

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Not a fantastic game but a nice one.

Jimbo was a good character, a nice guy.
The £10,000 was a good offer, and i don't see anything wrong in him dealing then. It's just a shame the £100k was in his box.

And yeah, i didn't see the point in the Tommii toilet thing...


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