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Power5

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:42 pm    Author: Power5    Post subject: How important is it to have a red in your box?
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Perhaps not as important as you might think.

Blue in box - 67 contestants - average win £14,652.94
Red in box - 55 contestants - average win £20,676.76.

The blue figure is inflated slightly by the fact that the biggest winner of all time actually had a blue in her box, but got a surprisingly generous offer when left with that and £250,000 at the end. But it still shows what's actually in your box tends to have less impact than people might expect.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:14 am    Author: sjmuk    Post subject:
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Very interesting point Power5. Has anyone simply gone on and gone through numbers 1-22 yet? If everything is as random as its ment to be you should have just as much chance that way as any other.

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bork

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:33 am    Author: bork    Post subject:
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Not yet, But (Dave) started that way and then skipped number 9, on 'instinct', which happened to have a great number in it (£50,000) So securing a great offer.

(vauge memories in brackets)


In answer to the thread question, you could have a penny in your box and still win about £170,000. You just have to get lucky in your box picking.
But it is obviously in your favour to have a big red, as you can't eliminate it, thus giving the banker something to think about.


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Power5

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:36 am    Author: Power5    Post subject:
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sjmuk wrote:
Very interesting point Power5. Has anyone simply gone on and gone through numbers 1-22 yet? If everything is as random as its ment to be you should have just as much chance that way as any other.


I think someone did almost do that once, but they missed out one or two that they were saving until the end. Also, Geordie went across the studio from left to right I seem to remember (didn't serve him too well as he had the only ever all-blue final five!)

As with picking lottery numbers etc., there's no reason why any particular system should be better or worse than any other. Of course, the longer you go on, the more influence what's in your own box has, but even if you have the penny you can still win big if you're lucky with not picking off the high amounts early on.


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greeny

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:38 am    Author: greeny    Post subject:

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Dave did, but missed 9 and 20 as they were his favourite numbers. 9 had £250,000 so he was always going to have a strong game.


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bork

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:43 am    Author: bork    Post subject:
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greeny wrote:
9 had £250,000 so he was always going to have a strong game.


My vauge memory is now partially refreshed. Didn't he walk away with £50,000? That number is sticking in my mind.


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Maltus

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:52 am    Author: Maltus    Post subject:

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bork wrote:
greeny wrote:
9 had £250,000 so he was always going to have a strong game.


My vauge memory is now partially refreshed. Didn't he walk away with £50,000? That number is sticking in my mind.


In Dave's game, £250,000 was in the box he missed out on instinct (Box 9), but he went away with £20,000 in the end.


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bork

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:05 am    Author: bork    Post subject:
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MisterAl

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:12 pm    Author: MisterAl    Post subject:
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bork wrote:
In answer to the thread question, you could have a penny in your box and still win about £170,000. You just have to get lucky in your box picking.

Surely not! If you've got the penny in your box you're never going to eliminate it, so the best situation you could end up with is a £250k/£100k/£75k/£50k/1p final five, or a £250k/1p final two. Neither of these would see a banker offer anything like as big as £170,000. Maybe half of that...


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lisa

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:39 pm    Author: lisa    Post subject:

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MisterAl wrote:
bork wrote:
In answer to the thread question, you could have a penny in your box and still win about £170,000. You just have to get lucky in your box picking.

Surely not! If you've got the penny in your box you're never going to eliminate it, so the best situation you could end up with is a £250k/£100k/£75k/£50k/1p final five, or a £250k/1p final two. Neither of these would see a banker offer anything like as big as £170,000. Maybe half of that...


To get a £170,000 offer, you would have to go to the last 2 boxes and keep the £100,000 and £250,000 in play. The chances of the happening are remote but not impossible.

If you were in that situation, would you deal or no deal? - HONESTLY!!!
Would you risk £70,000 for a 50/50 chance of an extra £80,000? I really don't know if I would. I used to ponder that scenario pre Deal or no Deal but never had to make that choice :smt022

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Maltus

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:44 pm    Author: Maltus    Post subject:

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lisa wrote:
To get a £170,000 offer, you would have to go to the last 2 boxes and keep the £100,000 and £250,000 in play. The chances of the happening are remote but not impossible.

If you were in that situation, would you deal or no deal? - HONESTLY!!!
Would you risk £70,000 for a 50/50 chance of an extra £80,000? I really don't know if I would. I used to ponder that scenario pre Deal or no Deal but never had to make that choice :smt022


To be honest, I would hope the banker gave me a smaller offer in that situation to sort of make the decision for me (like £135,000). I would want to go on and play the game, so I think if I was offered anything less than £150,000, I'd take the gamble... Anything more than that, I'd see how impulsive I felt on the day!


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Andy

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:44 pm    Author: Andy    Post subject:
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I'd no deal there, I think I could more than easily live with £100k, and it's easily worth the risk just to be able to say you won the biggest amount there.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:19 pm    Author: MichaelC    Post subject:

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lisa wrote:
To get a £170,000 offer, you would have to go to the last 2 boxes and keep the £100,000 and £250,000 in play. The chances of the happening are remote but not impossible.

If you were in that situation, would you deal or no deal? - HONESTLY!!!
Would you risk £70,000 for a 50/50 chance of an extra £80,000? I really don't know if I would. I used to ponder that scenario pre Deal or no Deal but never had to make that choice :smt022


I'd like to think that'd be a "No deal" for me - I'd be very happy with £100k, but the chance of £250k would possibly be too much to resist... That said, £170k would be enough to pay off the mortgage & my debts, so it'd probably be down to just how mental I felt on the day :D

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:40 pm    Author: clareybabes    Post subject:
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Imposter Mr Spikey here (dont tell Clare!)

I would go on for sure! Its not just the 80,000 that you could get but the spin offs!

You would be famous for atleast a week :D so you could earn some cash from that!! :D

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:06 pm    Author: KP    Post subject:
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I'm sure I'd deal before I got into that situation (as Sara did when it actually happened). That's assuming sensible offers though, and I'm not so sure they'd come.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:11 pm    Author: Power5    Post subject:
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KP wrote:
I'm sure I'd deal before I got into that situation (as Sara did when it actually happened). That's assuming sensible offers though, and I'm not so sure they'd come.


I think I would probably go on with both of those two left, unless there was a really inflated offer.

There would usually be a significant safety net in the form of moderately high reds - unless it was a board like Janet had today, in which case the offers would almost certainly be low anyway.


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