Ultimately this was just the worst match of board and player in a very long time, possibly of all time. It was only NastyBanker that took it as far as it did...

Precisely. Pre-cisely.

The most annoying thing was the comparison between 8-box and 5-box. At 8-box, there was a 50% chance that she had more than the offer in her box, and you might expect the next round to do some damage, but the percentage actually went up at 5-box! Bizarre.

Ok, I know this has been done before but compare these two theoretical boards:

Board 1 : 0.01p, £20, £50, £100 and £250. Offer: £45.

Board 2 : 10p, £20000, £50000, £100000 and £250000. Offer: £45000.

Amount of people who would deal on the first board. Probably no-one, unless for comedy effect. Amount of people who would deal on the second board. Well, possibly not a majority by any means, but a fair few I reckon. Including me.

Of course, the boards are, in essence, identical. A knowledge of the stats and percentages is a valuable tool when playing the game but the magnitude of the sums you're deliberating on is a hell of a consideration too.

On the first board with a £45 offer and a 60/40 chance of there being a bigger sum in my box I probably couldn't care less. On the second board with a £45000 offer and a 60/40 chance of there being a bigger sum in my box I'd be out of the studio quicker than you could say 'dodgy shirt'.

Hmmm how much of a difference does 90p make??? obviously a lot, since when Gaz had £1, £20,000, £50,000, £100,000 and £"50,000 left 2 months ago, he was offered £70,000.01, not far off double Kathleen's offer yesterday. And £145,000???!!!! more like £165,000

ironic, that nearly two months after almost ezxactly the same final five, it produces a fifth offer deal AND the perfect rouund 6 in prefect active play style

except both gaz and kathleen had dealt

Also, both had £100,000 in their box

Oh, absolutely. Power5 pointed out as much a while back. It depends upon (maths geek alert) the shape of your utility curve and whether its derivative changes. It does for most people to some extent - for a target-driven player, to a great extent, for someone like me rather less so.

90p wasn't the issue, Dan123 - it was the Banker's (correct) assumption that Kathleen was far more cautious than most people in a situation like that.

Also the fact that the offers these days are a lot different to the March/ April offers.

I doubt it. I think that was actually the first realistic £100k v £250k offer.

Also, I can fully understand both points of view on this, Yes she just needed to find the 10p to be assured of decent money, but say she hadn't, because it was in front of her and then she went on to have the ultimate disaster round.

10p v £20,000 - £8,000? Decent? Yes, but it wouldn't be enough to console me having just blown £37,000 more.


Although, having said all that, I couldn't say for sure what I'd have done. I would probably have taken £45,000, but there is also a chance I might have talked myself into going on

Yes, that too - especially on final pairs. Keeping the quarter-million with The Rock, let alone 10p, would have left a lot of room for the Banker to play with, and right now he'd throw in a low one. He'd probably have stuck on 10p/250k, and I'd probably have taken it too.

On 100k/250k I have no idea what he would genuinely offer. I suspect 165k isn't too far off. Hopefully one time we'll get it happen in active play.

I think the most likely offer on 10p/20k would have been £4,500 or even £3,200, playing on what the previous offers were, and it's possible to go that low, given what happened in Sharron's game!

You could say complete disaster was impossible, but it would be very difficult to deal an offer like that after turning down £45k and not risk winning 10p!

I woulda thought £165 - 175k would be around the realistic type of offer I mean hes got to try stop them going on.
But to be honest anyone who dealt at a 100k/250k final two even with a offer like that would be the biggest wuss I have ever seen and would disrespect them more than any other cautious player.
Harsh but fact it would be a no brainer decision for the player in this situation. Your guranteed a 100 GRAND.

On a side note to Kathleens Game 45k was derisory I woulda never took that oh well. I thought it was silly of her and she paid.

I have to say Kathleen's game was a refreshing change after all the bad luck we've had recently. Personally, along with Daniel4389, I'm quite shocked at the number of people here who'd have no dealt the £45k... I suppose everyone's desperate to see a big win after the low wins of late! £45k is a huge sum of money and I'd have dealt that too.

Well done Kathleen and enjoy the money - it's a shame you could've had more.