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James1978

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:27 pm    Author: James1978    Post subject:

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Exactly. They bent the rules so they could manufacture a more tense finish for drama's sake, they know 99% of contestants would deal a reasonable offer on that last pair, so they made sure of a box opening at any cost.

But they shouldn't have just played with human emotions like that, changing the rules at the end is just plain wrong.

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never_wrong

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:31 pm    Author: never_wrong    Post subject:

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I think that was one of the best games ever.

When the contestants sign up for the show, they do it on their own free will, and they know they are going out there to entertain and make a TV show. You see, that's the thing with TV shows, they're for entertaining purposes. I don't know what some of you think it's for.

I think the swap at the end was the best twist ever on the show. I don't care if they did what they did to PJ to Gandhi, or Mother Theresa or Hitler for that matter. It was a great twist to a TV show that entertained me and I'm sure millions of other people were entertained.

You see, I don't really care what happens to contestants on the show. I think the swaps offered to Craig and PJ are completely justified. It is a TV show, and just because a few people on the net are bothered about it, I doubt they will hesitate to do it again.


Good for you. But some of us do and that's the entertainment we derive from it.

Yes, the players sign up to go on the show but sign up for Deal or No Deal with the rules set out as they know them, not for the carpet to be just pulled from under them. What happened at the end had never happened before and was not something PJ expected or thought was part of the show - it's like applying for Supermarket Sweep but ending up playing Mastermind.

Anyway, if they did do that to Hitler, I'm sure he wouldn't have stood for it. He took no crap, that man.


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goku1st

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:32 pm    Author: goku1st    Post subject:

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Doing that at the end isn't breaking the rules. The producer is said to be the banker and that means, the producer can do what he likes. Mess with the contestants mind! Offer what he wants!


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h2005

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:36 pm    Author: h2005    Post subject:
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Doing that at the end isn't breaking the rules. The producer is said to be the banker and that means, the producer can do what he likes. Mess with the contestants mind! Offer what he wants!


But why is it fair that PJ didn't have a final offer when hundreds of other contestants did get one?

This reminds me of the banker's stupidly cruel tactics in Richard's game when he offered an extra £5,000 for Andrew, who had won £10 the day before!

I said this at the time and I'll say it again for this show - it may be produced by Endemol, but it does not mean they can bring in the psychological tactics that they use in Big Brother, for example! :?

Surely the banker's job is to offer as little money as possible to buy the contestant's box - where did the psychological games come into it?!


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goku1st

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:43 pm    Author: goku1st    Post subject:

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why are we all squabbling over this. It's jus a game SLIGHTLY altered. Im sure it won't happen again... Unless it's between 1p and £250,000


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croftrock

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:47 pm    Author: croftrock    Post subject:

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They do the swap at the end instead of the offer all the time on all the versions around the world. It's part of the show. You can tell that from the way PJ guessed what the banker was going to do.

It's very odd to get in a kind of moral panic about it. It's a game where people get money for nothing!

IMO that was the best game OF ALL TIME!


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Ben Miller 176

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:54 pm    Author: Ben Miller 176    Post subject:

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Enjoy the money PJ!


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Aaron Brock

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:54 pm    Author: Aaron Brock    Post subject:

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That was the biggest pile of steaming *beep* I've read about in a long time. I haven't watched it yet as I'm at uni at the moment... I'll be watching it when I get back!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

This was worse than Craig's game!

Is PJ the 10th member of the 1p club or not?

Has he won £15,000.01?

Is it an OPW or an OBW?

What the *beep* has happened to this show?! :shock:

It's such a shame when such a good TV show has to resort to such crap measures - why can't they just leave the format alone?! :?


What's wrong with a bit of sympathy?

That was the most emotional game I've ever seen.

little_monster wrote:
I think that was one of the best games ever.

When the contestants sign up for the show, they do it on their own free will, and they know they are going out there to entertain and make a TV show. You see, that's the thing with TV shows, they're for entertaining purposes. I don't know what some of you think it's for.


ITA.

little_monster wrote:
I think the swap at the end was the best twist ever on the show.


ITD. I hated that, especially when it was one of the worst differences you could get.

little_monster wrote:
It was a great twist to a TV show that entertained me and I'm sure millions of other people were entertained.


There's two obvious sides to this.

1. Emotional. I think some forum members fell into that.
2. Entertaining. Yes, I could see it being an entertaining twist, but that was a bad time to do it though.
3. Angry. Sadly, people on this forum think that the show is deteriorating. This series isn't but Series 3 OMG Pink Neon lights :shock:

little_monster wrote:
You see, I don't really care what happens to contestants on the show


So...you must hate people then in other words, in this circumstance?

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It is a TV show, and just because a few people on the net are bothered about it, I doubt they will hesitate to do it again.


ITA. I understand that they should stick with the rules, but whats wrong with the odd twist?

Congrats PJ on £15,000.01!

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richie4eva1

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:57 pm    Author: richie4eva1    Post subject:
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Just watched PJ's game on More4 and I have to say....what a very strange game

Lots of unanswered questions come out of that game

What must the 9 other people who got 1p be thinking right now as they didn't get the offer that PJ got at the end in terms of having the consolation prize of whatever was in the viewers box? Why PJ and nobody else?

Is PJ a member of the 1p club or does the 15k save him from that distinction?

Very dubious game, in my opinion, and what happened right at the end must NEVER be repeated

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h2005

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:59 pm    Author: h2005    Post subject:
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h2005 wrote:
That was the biggest pile of steaming *beep* I've read about in a long time. I haven't watched it yet as I'm at uni at the moment... I'll be watching it when I get back!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

This was worse than Craig's game!

Is PJ the 10th member of the 1p club or not?

Has he won £15,000.01?

Is it an OPW or an OBW?

What the *beep* has happened to this show?! :shock:

It's such a shame when such a good TV show has to resort to such crap measures - why can't they just leave the format alone?! :?


What's wrong with a bit of sympathy?


I'm not criticising PJ here - I'm criticising the banker and Endemol! I feel very sorry for PJ - he didn't have a proper game. :(


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daniel4389

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 7:04 pm    Author: daniel4389    Post subject:

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Well, to be honest, I didn't particularly like PJ anyway, but even if I had, I understand that the point that the game should be manipulated to entertain the viewers and not necessarily to be kind to the players. The thing is, other than the initial "OMG what a *beep* that Banker is", there wasn't much entertainment there for me. Whatever happened after he turned down the swap was going to be crap.

If he'd won 1p (which he did) then obviously that would be rubbish.

If he'd won £75k then...well, it would be good for him, but would anyone have felt the same sort of excitement and happiness as when Lynne won it? He wouldn't have "earnt" it or anything...he just had no other option. It's just a slightly more elaborate version of getting someone to pick a box at the start and then giving them whatever's in that. I'm all for gambling and big wins but I want my players to "earn" their money...just as they should "earn" the chance to win a blue if they're going to gamble big offers. (I realise the word "earn" isn't really appropriate in a game like DOND where they don't really do anything to deserve any money at all, but you get what I mean.)

And to be honest, the £15k at the end just made it much worse for me. If they're going down the route of not offering any money at the end, then fine. I think that's a *beep* *beep* idea and I hate it, but if they feel the need to do it then OK. But they should at least have the balls to actually *beep* stick to that and not come up with some pathetic cop-out at the end. Either be really mean, or be fair...but have the guts to actually choose one of them and stick to it.

And then there's the usual complaint of it messing with the stats in terms of how many people are in the 1p club and whatever. I accept that the majority of viewers couldn't give a *beep* about that but it's a big part of the show for me and it annoys me when they mess with it...although they've never done so quite as majorly as tonight. :shock: If I carry on watching the show and keeping track of the stats etc. then I think I might just pretend PJ's game was never aired, like Amanda's...

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"The Banker"

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 7:18 pm    Author: "The Banker"    Post subject:

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Welldone PJ, enjoy the money.

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Tom

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:01 pm    Author: Tom    Post subject:

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Ok..im not really sure what to think..

Is he the 10th member of the 1p club???? :shock: :ponder:

Well done PJ.


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Zeddie

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:02 pm    Author: Zeddie    Post subject:

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...This is going to be "different" commentary. To say the least. I don't want him to beat Sarah's swap, and he can't equal it, because the 10p is gone... I hope he swapped for the £75,000.


...Oh dear. He swapped away the £75,000...

I liked the twist at the end. It reminded me of the game where the banker offered £5,000 for Andrew the blind guy, then the next offer was a blank £5,000 cheque, which it's rumoured that the player didn't give to Andrew.

Sure, this 6th offer Swap was cruel, but then it was all made up with the £15,000 viewer box. Even if it were £1,000 in the viewers box, I'd still be happy. I mean, 10th member of the club (I love the 1p club) and a grand. I definitely wouldn't complain. So £15,000 + 1p, I'd be ecstatic.

Well done PJ. Painful but awesome game!

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alexandercbrown

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:29 pm    Author: alexandercbrown    Post subject:

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Simon F wrote:
h2005 wrote:
Simon F wrote:
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just think of all the other members of the 1p club who did not get a second chance.


All 9 members did get the opportunity to bail out at the final 2 though - PJ didn't (I'm not justifying what happened at the end but given that we was denied the chance to take away probably around £20K - it seems some sort of justice has been done).


Yes exactly! The other members of the 1p club all had a chance to play a normal game, whereas PJ didn't!!! :?


It's funny that Noel keeps going on about courage but the fact that PJ didn't have the courage to open box 19 left him open for the banker's evilness.


ITA why bother swapping in the first place? It leaves a cloud hanging over the game. And this game was a bit messy like Ned, Rich etc.


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jmas07

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:31 pm    Author: jmas07    Post subject:
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alexandercbrown wrote:
Simon F wrote:
h2005 wrote:
Simon F wrote:
suszie wrote:
just think of all the other members of the 1p club who did not get a second chance.


All 9 members did get the opportunity to bail out at the final 2 though - PJ didn't (I'm not justifying what happened at the end but given that we was denied the chance to take away probably around £20K - it seems some sort of justice has been done).


Yes exactly! The other members of the 1p club all had a chance to play a normal game, whereas PJ didn't!!! :?


It's funny that Noel keeps going on about courage but the fact that PJ didn't have the courage to open box 19 left him open for the banker's evilness.


ITA why bother swapping in the first place? It leaves a cloud hanging over the game


Because it was his lucky number (understandibly) but it just didn't have enough today.


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alexandercbrown

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:32 pm    Author: alexandercbrown    Post subject:

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jmas07 wrote:
alexandercbrown wrote:
Simon F wrote:
h2005 wrote:
Simon F wrote:
suszie wrote:
just think of all the other members of the 1p club who did not get a second chance.


All 9 members did get the opportunity to bail out at the final 2 though - PJ didn't (I'm not justifying what happened at the end but given that we was denied the chance to take away probably around £20K - it seems some sort of justice has been done).


Yes exactly! The other members of the 1p club all had a chance to play a normal game, whereas PJ didn't!!! :?


It's funny that Noel keeps going on about courage but the fact that PJ didn't have the courage to open box 19 left him open for the banker's evilness.


ITA why bother swapping in the first place? It leaves a cloud hanging over the game


Because it was his lucky number (understandibly) but it just didn't have enough today.


sorry , i know why he swapped but why didn't he open box 19 straight away?


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Zeddie

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:38 pm    Author: Zeddie    Post subject:

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Ben Miller 176 wrote:
Enjoy the money PJ!


DO YOU EVER SAY ANYTHING ELSE?!

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Aaron Brock

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:42 pm    Author: Aaron Brock    Post subject:

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alexandercbrown wrote:
jmas07 wrote:
alexandercbrown wrote:
Simon F wrote:
h2005 wrote:
Simon F wrote:
suszie wrote:
just think of all the other members of the 1p club who did not get a second chance.


All 9 members did get the opportunity to bail out at the final 2 though - PJ didn't (I'm not justifying what happened at the end but given that we was denied the chance to take away probably around £20K - it seems some sort of justice has been done).


Yes exactly! The other members of the 1p club all had a chance to play a normal game, whereas PJ didn't!!! :?


It's funny that Noel keeps going on about courage but the fact that PJ didn't have the courage to open box 19 left him open for the banker's evilness.


ITA why bother swapping in the first place? It leaves a cloud hanging over the game


Because it was his lucky number (understandibly) but it just didn't have enough today.


sorry , i know why he swapped but why didn't he open box 19 straight away?


Stating the obvious, he may not have wanted to, and he said he was scared just in case it was a big number.

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22identicalboxes

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:43 pm    Author: 22identicalboxes    Post subject:

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I'm not too sure what to make of that game. It made great viewing, but the swap at the end was a bit odd. At least PJ got £15,000 from the competition, anyway.


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