Oh, sorry, one last thing...how exactly are you paying to watch DOND, wakey?

Good. She deserves that for being so bloody cautious. DO NOT BE CAUTIOUS It will not pay off, EVER.

£12k. So little amoutn of money.

He's not wakey. He doesnt have wakey's personality....or anger at nothing for that matter.

third offer deal. £12k. Crap.

You must be very rich to call £12,000 "so little"!

It's quite disturbing really...when I was his age I thought £20 was loads of money. DOND is corrupting our youth...

Daniel, we all have to pay for a TV. We also have to pay for our TV license. I don't want to watch rubbish like today, and there isn't much else to watch either!

And you pay for all that yourself, do you?



It's not compulsory to watch TV, you know...you could try going outside or something instead.

Ok, the Deal did surprise me given all the hyping up of the £100,000. But given how the maximum mean at offer stage was about £23,000 it's not like she missed out on hundreds of thousands, and I doubt she's particularly bothered either way. She went there with nothing and left with £12,000, what's there to not like about that?

On a brighter note, Mr Hat's first appearance today! He's an absolute legend. And the guy who opened box 1 made me feel a lot better about my open, which was a work of art compared to that!

Well done on £12,000, Anne Marie

And I must admit, it was absolute heaven without those chants today

It's her game. She can do whatever she wants

The only thing I don't like about early deals however, as someone else said, is I know Noel is gonna go on and on and on with his "This MUST be the hundred thousand!"/"You've made a HUGE mistake!" on and on and on.


Enjoy the 12K, Anne-Marie!

I'm surprised at you KP, I thought deal for less than box value was an automatic OBW...

Anyway, I suspected an early deal before watching the show, as I was doing the wing poll results I kept seeing KP and "jmas" as the last posters on this thread... knew what the debate would be somehow! While of course it's the player's own decision, even if in this case an extremely cautious one, I can't see the producers letting this continue much longer, as I don't think they will see third offer deals as being good for viewing figures. I predict the return of Nasty Banker very soon, with offers that would have even Beryl or Harry playing to the end!

Exactly. I was surprised at that deal, but I doubt those proveout offers would really have been so high. Well done, Anne-Marie!

Well done Anne-Marie!

We were dicsussing what score would be issued had Anne-Marie got a blue in her box.

Well done Anne-Marie.

Thats box opening at the end was great!

By the way Billy, box 1 looks a little uneven at the top!

Haha. We are that obvious... apologies for the indirect spoiler...



The ratings have fallen 30-40% since Laura's game, allowing University Challenge (yes, really) to become the most viewed game show outside of BBC1/ITV1 for a couple of weeks. Something will change, and as it's unlikely to be Noel, it's going to have to be Glenn.

It's taken three months too long, but we've finally got a bunch of players who have realised that Glenn is making exceptionally generous offers on a regular basis, and are acting accordingly. This week's events are likely to instigate a change, I just hope it's a moderate reaction (which would be unquestionably good) rather than a kneejerk excessive one (which would replace one problem with another, and probably lead to at least one game like 1p Sharron's that will send the conspiracy theorists storming in angrily like a Shaun Tait yorker.

I'll start making a regular feature of this; the offer range produced by the formula I'm testing out at present. It is based on the mean, FD and volatility, and there's also a sliding scale for expected risk-aversion levels (which I have calibrated on a scale of 0-10, with 0 = Wakey and 10 = Beryl). All figures quoted assume a risk-aversion level of 5. Real offer quoted afterwards.

well done anne-marie....the end bit was a giggle

Will add my own well done Anne-Marie. The sum of £12k is not to be sneezed at and I feel that unless any of us know Anne-Marie's, or indeed any other contestant that deals at which ever box stage, personal financial situation then for all we know this could be the 'life changing' sum of money that Noel goes on about.

I've never understood the bias that certain forum members have towards no dealing - surely the show would be boring if they just all no dealt to the end? Wouldn't only the last 5 or 10 minutes be actually worth watching? They may as well just skip the first three offers if it appears to be frowned upon by people on here and people on the show itself if people deal at the third offer... I found today's show interesting to see how the proveout would go, but yes, I do dread them nowadays because of Noel's reaction.

Noel is clearly showing favouritism towards players as well, which is unfair:

Take these examples:

Betty - dealt too early - he treats her well, presumably as she's a sweet old lady.

Steven - dealt too early - Noel really rubs it in - presumably because he didn't fancy him and he wasn't a sweet old lady.

Kelsie - dealt too early and started crying, so Noel wasn't too bad with her - he probably fancied her as well.

Rita - dealt too early - wanted the money for an emotional cause, so Noel didn't rub it in too much.

Gaz - dealt too early - Noel clearly liked him and didn't rub it in too much, despite the fact that he missed out on much more than people like Steven did.

Philip - dealt too early - Noel wasn't too bad - he clearly liked him (well, he was his best friend ).

Anne-Marie - she dealt too early and he makes a huge song and dance out of it when she could've only got £12,000 more - not a huge amount that she missed out on! Presumably he didn't like her much.

I thought after Philip's, Rita's and Gaz's games, that Noel was getting better, but his horribly negative "No! It's not good enough!" comments started again today.

Imagine if she'd still been playing and she'd no dealt the offer of £24,000, then went to the end and won £15,000 - Noel would be all "You played the game brilliantly and did the right thing", despite the fact she could've had more by dealing earlier... Noel seems to have forgotten that sometimes is the case.

Anyway, Anne-Marie - I liked you on the wings and in your game and you played it your way and did the right deal at the right time for you, so well done and enjoy the £12,000!