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daniel4389

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:06 pm    Author: daniel4389    Post subject:

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How do you know £1/ £20,000 would have got a £10,000 offer? I think it would have been £7,000.01.


After the gamble, it probably would have been nearer the mean if not on it.

£7,000.01 is still good, right?


It is, but the money involved isn't simply divided into "good" and "bad". I'd like to have £1,000. I'd also like to have £1,000,000. That doesn't mean I'd be completely indifferent to a choice between the two.

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jmas07

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:07 pm    Author: jmas07    Post subject:
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Why gamble it? Because it was such an amazing board with a HUGE chance of an increase and if he did have the disaster scenario, he would have thought about the child and took the offer which came afterwards. Most likely anyway. With that much money guaranteed if he no deals, he may as well give it a go instead of dealing and blowing the whole lot!!!

Judging by the game, he will enjoy £70,000 + a load of regrets. But if that's enough for him, then so be it!!!

Have fun with £70,000.


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alexandercbrown

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:11 pm    Author: alexandercbrown    Post subject:

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It was a sensible deal as £70000 is amazing anyway. He would have gone all the way on that final 2 so he was only destined to have £30000 more. It would have been interesting to see reach the dream scenario though and drop £70000!


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KP

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:12 pm    Author: KP    Post subject:
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But it's a loss of £63,000. Could you lose £63,000?

(Or in other words, what never_wrong said.)

I might have carried on there but only if I could have expected £100k+ on £1/£250k. Which on recent form you possibly might :S

It was certainly utterly forgivable to take it as a job extremely well done.

Here's a matrix suggesting what I think the final offers might have been for each final pair...

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If I worked on those assumptions I would Deal, not worth chasing a gap that small based on the final pairs.

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h2005

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:14 pm    Author: h2005    Post subject:
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He blew it! I knew it! We are denyed an IN PLAY DREAM SCENARIO by an amazing board the round before! UGH!
Leanne also had box 20. I think he has the £250,000.


You weren't "denyed" ( :roll: ) anything. £70k was enough for him. I would also have dealt that. It was simply too much to lose, even if he was guaranteed a red in his final two.


It was such an opportinuty to squander though, no matter how great £70,000 was, the board was the best in play board we have had at that point in... ages. If not ever. Nothing would have taken me out then, it was such an amazing board!

Wouldn't the guaranteed £10,000 offer been enough for the child? It is usually nowadays isn't it?


I agree with never_wrong.

The £70,000.01 was an excellent offer and had he turned it down, at that stage in the game, there was a chance he could've ended up with a final two of £1 and £20,000 with an offer of probably £7,000, and even if he'd gambled and won £20,000, it's far less than £70,000.01. Yes, I know he had £100,000 in his box - but even a £1 vs £100,000 offer, for example, would've resulted in an offer of under half of £70,000.01, most likely.

The only way he could've got a higher offer than £70,000 is if he had either kept the £250k in play, or had ended up with a £50,000 vs £100,000 finish - so it was very finely balanced! Unfortunately for Gaz, he did keep the £250k in play and kept the second highest figure with it, which happened to be in his box! :( I wonder what offer he'd have got if he'd ended up with a £1 vs £250k finish, after turning down the previous £70,000.01? Still, at least there wasn't the horrible sting in the tail at the end - he didn't have the £250k in his box!

£100k has been on the table two days in a row, and the £250k with Jo two days in a row... :shock:

Anyway Gaz - enjoy the money and a very well done! I may have no dealt the £28,000, but I'd have definitely dealt the £70,000.01! If for some reason I'd still been playing at the 2-box stage (i.e. if Wakey came into the studio and changed my brain processes), then I'd have dealt the £170,000.01... probably.

Oh and Wakey - just because we know who you are now doesn't mean you can start relapsing into your old ways... :|


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travis P

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:15 pm    Author: travis P    Post subject:

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£70,000.01 was cast iron in my book. Only the £250,000 justified that offer. Had he carried on and removed it (remember, he didn't have it). Then he would've been lucky to see the same offer again, had he kept the £50,000.

When I saw the final five. I said he would guarantee £5,000 if it all fell apart. If we had £1/£250,0000. Then I wouldn't be surprised if he matched Claudine's offer of around £107,000.01.


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h2005

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:16 pm    Author: h2005    Post subject:
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But it's a loss of £63,000. Could you lose £63,000?


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jmas07

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:20 pm    Author: jmas07    Post subject:
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h2005 wrote:
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He blew it! I knew it! We are denyed an IN PLAY DREAM SCENARIO by an amazing board the round before! UGH!
Leanne also had box 20. I think he has the £250,000.


You weren't "denyed" ( :roll: ) anything. £70k was enough for him. I would also have dealt that. It was simply too much to lose, even if he was guaranteed a red in his final two.


It was such an opportinuty to squander though, no matter how great £70,000 was, the board was the best in play board we have had at that point in... ages. If not ever. Nothing would have taken me out then, it was such an amazing board!

Wouldn't the guaranteed £10,000 offer been enough for the child? It is usually nowadays isn't it?


I agree with never_wrong.

The £70,000.01 was an excellent offer and had he turned it down, at that stage in the game, there was a chance he could've ended up with a final two of £1 and £20,000 with an offer of probably £7,000, and even if he'd gambled and won £20,000, it's far less than £70,000.01. Yes, I know he had £100,000 in his box - but even a £1 vs £100,000 offer, for example, would've resulted in an offer of under half of £70,000.01, most likely.

The only way he could've got a higher offer than £70,000 is if he had either kept the £250k in play, or had ended up with a £50,000 vs £100,000 finish - so it was very finely balanced! Unfortunately for Gaz, he did keep the £250k in play and kept the second highest figure with it, which happened to be in his box! :( I wonder what offer he'd have got if he'd ended up with a £1 vs £250k finish, after turning down the previous £70,000.01? Still, at least there wasn't the horrible sting in the tail at the end - he didn't have the £250k in his box!

£100k has been on the table two days in a row, and the £250k with Jo two days in a row... :shock:

Anyway Gaz - enjoy the money and a very well done! I may have no dealt the £28,000, but I'd have definitely dealt the £70,000.01! If for some reason I'd still been playing at the 2-box stage (i.e. if Wakey came into the studio and changed my brain processes), then I'd have dealt the £170,000.01... probably.

Oh and Wakey - just because we know who you are now doesn't mean you can start relapsing into your old ways... :|


I'm not relapsing into my old ways. YOU called Di an idiot for declining £44,000 which you thought was idiotic. I didn't even call Gaz an idiot for dealing £70,000.01 even though I thought it was the wrong decision, yet I am getting the bullet to the head just for suggesting he did the wrong thing, and why I thought he did the wrong thing. :?


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Suezan

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:22 pm    Author: Suezan    Post subject:

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Love it when we get a new member to the hall of fame really enjoyed the game


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h2005

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:25 pm    Author: h2005    Post subject:
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jmas07 wrote:
I'm not relapsing into my old ways. YOU called Di an idiot for declining £44,000 which you thought was idiotic. I didn't even call Gaz an idiot for dealing £70,000.01 even though I thought it was the wrong decision, yet I am getting the bullet to the head just for suggesting he did the wrong thing, and why I thought he did the wrong thing. :?


I don't think I did call Di an idiot, actually! :P

Stating your opinion is fair enough - but this is how it started before - not long after, you started calling people idiots for dealing. As long as that doesn't start, then I won't have to get Oscar Blaketon to arrest you. ;)


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Sergeant Oscar Blaketon

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:28 pm    Author: Sergeant Oscar Blaketon    Post subject:

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h2005 wrote:
Stating your opinion is fair enough - but this is how it started before - not long after, you started calling people idiots for dealing. As long as that doesn't start, then I won't have to get Oscar Blaketon to arrest you. ;)


Which one of your many gambling-based rants of the day is this, WAKEY?! :evil:


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KP

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:32 pm    Author: KP    Post subject:
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You certainly implied it though.

For what it's worth, I can certainly see your point. And if you are to be silenced, reason dictates that I should be too.

I think you've probably made more personal attacks than we have, but I might be speaking from a position of bias.

And I wouldn't want either you or me to be hosting the show. I'd rather have someone doing it on the straight and narrow, like 2005-era Noel, or Howie Mandel (who really is rather cautious, but US regulations on game shows dictate he can't be influential in the game).

To get back to this game, I think either decision was justifiable here. If he'd gone on I'm sure some people would have said he was reckless and been annoyed at him risking so much money and getting away with it. Which I really wish wasn't the case, I hate retrospective judgement although maybe even I slip into it sometimes. (Though I try not to, and - for instance - really got annoyed at Buddy and Barry's gambles paying off as I really did think they were careless.)

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:40 pm    Author: johnr    Post subject:

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He would have been the second £100k Gaz :-D


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Billy

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:40 pm    Author: Billy    Post subject:
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Remember back in December when every Today's Show thread would end in a Wakey vs Everyone argument? Good thing those days are gone.

I think we should continue two games here, JT's last April and Shirley's last June. Their final fives and offers:

JT: £500, £20,000, £50,000, £100,000, £250,000 (£39,000)
Shirley: 50p, £10,000, £50,000, £75,000, £250,000 (£55,000)
Gaz: £1, £20,000, £50,000, £100,000, £250,000 (£70,000.01)

And here's what the first two did:

JT: Dealt, took out all of the power 5 and had £20,000 in his box. OPW.
Shirley: No Dealt, took out all the reds except £50,000, dealt at £20,000 and had £50,000 in her box. OBW.

Today's game could have gone EITHER way. If he'd have Dealt and done a JT he'd be hailed as a hero, if he'd No Dealt and done a Shirley he'd be hailed as an idiot. I don't know how ANYONE could be upset about winning £70,000.01, I've never had 1/70th of that in my life, and I couldn't imagine what on earth I'd do with it!

Really classic game and a fantastic win. The £100k v £250k was unlucky, but you can't go wrong with £70,000.01, really well done, Gaz! Following the pattern, the next Gaz will probably have 1p...

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I think if you were offered 70 grand before opening any boxes, I don't think you'd want to play somehow? :)

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Well done Gaz - you seem like genuine guy and hope you enjoy your money. Going to a game show with possibility of winning on 1p who cud possibly have regrets with 70,000 pound. I am sure not many people wud have gone on.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:55 pm    Author: jmas07    Post subject:
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KP wrote:
You certainly implied it though.

For what it's worth, I can certainly see your point. And if you are to be silenced, reason dictates that I should be too.

I think you've probably made more personal attacks than we have, but I might be speaking from a position of bias.

And I wouldn't want either you or me to be hosting the show. I'd rather have someone doing it on the straight and narrow, like 2005-era Noel, or Howie Mandel (who really is rather cautious, but US regulations on game shows dictate he can't be influential in the game).

To get back to this game, I think either decision was justifiable here. If he'd gone on I'm sure some people would have said he was reckless and been annoyed at him risking so much money and getting away with it. Which I really wish wasn't the case, I hate retrospective judgement although maybe even I slip into it sometimes. (Though I try not to, and - for instance - really got annoyed at Buddy and Barry's gambles paying off as I really did think they were careless.)


Thank's KP, I can see your points as well.

I don't intend to call anyone idiots, unless they match the same amount of idiocy as H seemed to think Di had. ;)


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:13 pm    Author: basicasic    Post subject:
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Billy wrote:
Remember back in December when every Today's Show thread would end in a Wakey vs Everyone argument?


Well from what I can see its because he likes to see people take chances and gamble on good boards. Unfortunately everyone else on the forum likes to see people play safe and deal. Hence the 'everyone' versus 'him'.

The 'everyone else' element then goad him and pick on him like schoolyard bullies for his dissenting view and wind him up until he says something he shouldn't.

Why not accept he has an opposing view to the majority here and accept that. He is a prolific poster and supporter of the forum and is genuinely very keen on the game - just from a different perspective. It is a game that can get us all wound up at times - but it is just a game.

And for what its worth I thought Gaz should have carried on with that board for sure but once again someone wimps out and misses out on £100k more. But £70k is not a bad consolation though.

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Well done Gaz on winning a *beep* £70,000 enjoy the money! :-D


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