No need to use hindsight, there was a significant chance Steven would have a power 5 value in his box, and he even had a 1/2 chance of having £50,000 upwards at the 8 box stage!

£66,000 offer? no chance if he had still been in play.
now something that would rekindle the shows credibility is if the contestant who was offered such a fantasy offer would say...theres no way the banker would have offered that much...wonder what noel would say to that, or would they edit it out??

well done Steven, i was shocked when you dealt too enjoy the money, gonna miss you on the show!

lol Joanne x

joanne06 - Hat.

Anyway,

That was an appauling game, and yet again the banker wins. That's 5 victories in a row. 3rd offer deal, over-inflated offers.

But...

Noel was sane, and not many blue chants!

that game was the worst EVER. IN OVER 415 SHOWS I HAVE SEEN, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A GAME SO APPALLING AS THAT. WHEN I SEE YOU GLENN HUGILL[or banker] YOU BETTER RUN COZ IM GONNA STRANGLE YOU with my bare hands.

I. Hate.The.Banker.And.Steven's game.They should never.have.aired.his game.because of the.offers.

i wish the banker would stop playing the contestants for who they are rather than the board - its a money show not Noel's Chat Party

...And relax.....

I despise Noel, Steven's voice, the Banker's proveout offers, and the fact that there'll probably be a woman in E10 tomorrow. But all that aside, I liked Steven and the way he played the game...I'm one of the few people who wasn't horrified when he Dealt, and would probably have done the same myself. £27,500 is loads...and you get to join a club with Roy. What more could you ask for?

Oh, come off it. There was one (count it, one) over-inflated proveout offer at 66k, which was ridiculous. 55k was a fair offer. And, adhering to the "Steven principle", which describes my sort of strategy well (i.e. not dealing when at least 3 of the power 5 are still there), one which I might have been inclined to turn down.

I'm interested in what H said earlier - I agree that it's irritating that Noel overdoes it sometimes with the "look what you could have won" guilt-trips, but what else should he do? Would it be possible to do it in a more sympathetic manner?

If I could pu it another way, I'd say that it's nowhere near as irritating as the chanting, which has got considerably worse recently, so much so that I'm only paying attention via kestrel's excellent commentary. I'd much rather the chanting got sorted out - I can live with Noel being a bit OTT.

That 66k AMO did take the piss, and was one of the worst inflated proveout offers since the early days. But Noel did go over the top with his Wakeyistic closing speech (though I can imagine certain ex-forum members throwing things at the TV at that point, if not worse!) Every player has the right to deal or no deal any offer that's made, it's about what feels right for them, whether or not it works out is down to the luck of the boxes.

Also that "quarter of a million" chant has to be the clumsiest/worst fitting chant yet, but it has a 100% success rate so far!

£50,000...

Are you kidding me...

*hits head on brick wall*

Stevennnnn could have been the 3rd member of the best club ever... Oh wells, he still got nice money.

Those post-offer deals were rubbish though, 55k? 66k? I don't think so. More like 40k and stick at 40k...

Well done Steven!

£27,500 is a fantastic amount of money. Well done Steven

Whats with that £66,000...no way would the offer have been that..grr!
And bloody Noel...

While Steven did deal too early there have been contestants that have squandered the chance to win a lot more money than him so Noel shouldn't have got as carried away as he did, and it is wrong to apologise to the viewers for a contestant's decision to deal early! After all, some people come with a target that would make them walk almost regardless of the board to achieve their personal goals and maybe £27,500 was in excess of his target. Well done Steven on £27,500.

I'm sure Steven won't have appreciated Noel's final comment along the lines of 'different player tomorrow, hopefully a different attitude' I wouldn't mind Steven's attitude if I could rake up 27.5k in 45 minutes....

I'd prefer it if Noel had a different attitude tomorrow, rather than the player. But I don't think that's going to happen.

I'd have chanted 'big one, big one' if I had to... Paintworks has more chants these days than Ashton Gate and it's silly.

Worth pointing out there are usually no proveout offers in the Dutch or Australian version (occasionally just one in the Dutch version if the player's gone too soon). The proveout is played out largely so the players on the podium can get their prediction bonuses.

It's possible that Steven's comments on the wings were part of a bluff designed to make the Banker scared of him, drawing a very high early offer which he would then Deal. Heck, I'd do that if I was on the wings, certainly with current Banker behaviour...

Having said all that, I would have gone on, but it was justifiable not to. Hard to turn down that much money... bear in mind, the average annual salary in the UK is less than £25,000 a year - and that's not tax-free! I'd have expected both the eight-box and five-box offers to be just below £50k.

I don't watch this show anymore. As an Economics student with a keen interest in game theory, I watched this show for the game. Now, there is no game.

Yes, I'm NOT the only one surprised that the Banker's 5th offer of £66,000 was ridiculous. It was ABOVE the mean FFS!

That early deal kinda shocked me because it's very rare to see that happen. I would have declined £27,500 if I was sitting there. However, I can't deny that £27,500 is a lot of money.

I'm not sure when you started watching the show, but as I explain in this thread - http://www.dond.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8151 - Noel used to have two phrases - "You did the right deal at the right time" if they dealt at the optimum time in the game and got the maxmimum money available, but if they dealt too soon or late, he would say "You did the right deal at the right time for you" - which he no longer does.

He is no longer neutral - he seems to want to prove the player wrong for dealing. And it would be possible to be more sympathetic, by recognising the mathematical fact that had Steven carried on, he could've knocked out the top 3 amounts in the next round, and never seen an offer near £27,500 again!

I thought some of Noel's comments after Steven had dealt were stupid and unfair as usual, especially as Steven was such a nice bloke, and was clearly liked by everyone there.