'Tingle' John 09/10

**Posted:** Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:31 pm **Author:** LittleFrog **Post subject:**

I didn't notice those cuts - will be interesting to see if tomorrow's show follows suit! This should be called Edit Watch or something

**Posted:** Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:35 pm **Author:** Billy **Post subject:**

I thought it was a little odd that Barbara's shock of a game was completely ignored. Makes sense if they cut it out.

**Joined:** Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:50 pm **Warnings:** 0

crazyeddie wrote:

I've been thinking about yesterday's game, where the whole mood changed when Barbara decided to swap her box. Swapping shouldn't have any effect, and yet it seemed as though everyone around her was concerned before the swapped box was opened.

I think Daniel's hit the nail on the head with his comments above about this. People were concerned that she'd given away the big money which, psychologically, seems worse than never having it in the first place.

Quote:

With random distribution of the amounts, there's no advantage to swapping. However, if it isn't fully random, then some information can be gained as to what the contents of the player's box could be through the opening of the other boxes.

My theory is, while we don't know what's in the box, it may be possible to have more than a 50% chance of knowing where the money is located, based on the knowledge of the previous boxes.

At the moment, it's only a hunch. If the independent adjudicator isn't using computer methods to randomise the contents of the boxes after Sequencegate, then it could be worth looking into past games' trends. If it is random, then it should have no effect on how well a player does.

In other words, while it may seem like no harm can come from the swap decision, it could help you to win more in the long run, and conversely, to lose less.

Well, obviously.

I was really asking what your evidence was. I don't mean any disrespect here, but a mere 'hunch' that amounts are not being allocated randomly isn't going to persuade me one way or the other...

**Joined:** Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:44 pm **Warnings:** 0

Goldeneye wrote:

For those of you who didn't know, in Germaine's game, Boxes 8 and 12 (Germaine's) were left and the two amounts remaining were the £1 and £250,000, respeciively (However, Germaine took the £75,000 deal and then the £250,000 was revealed to be in his Box 12).

I know of at least one player (Ron) with Box 8 having a red (£20,000) in his game. Any others, especially those with one of the Power Five?

8

Barbara (1) - £1
Helen (3) - £1,000
Pat G. - £50
Pete - £100
Gary (2) - £5,000
Dot - £1
Emma D. - 10p
Raj (2) - £1
Ron - £20,000
Ashok - £250
Mark (3) - £10
Debbie (2) - £250
Chris (3) - £50,000
John (Tingle) - £1

Most frequent value: £1

Bold means the player went to the end.

**Posted:** Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:08 pm **Author:** Tom **Post subject:**

Disappointing game...John deserved more just for his attitude to it.

**Joined:** Sun May 07, 2006 11:21 pm **Warnings:** 0

poor John it's a shame because he's had quite a lot of high amounts i wanted him to win big. but still well done john you played a great game

**Posted:** Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:16 pm **Author:** GAC1984 **Post subject:**

Poor John. I'll miss those tingles he did with the boxes.

**Posted:** Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:16 am **Author:** h2005 **Post subject:**

I don't like all this guessing what's in the box stuff, but John was a great bloke and the box guessing stuff and tingles provided entertainment...

Well done for an interesting game, and having the tingle / positivity to take on the banker... shame you didn't win more... I'd have dealt the final offer of £2,500... enjoy the £1!

**Joined:** Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:00 pm **Warnings:** 0

Regarding the distribution of box values - it's curious, really. Any particular trends would appear to be short-term, really, but Dave's sheet might be useful here.

...if John had played in February he'd have cracked Sequencegate, wouldn't he? That would have killed off the show, in all likelihood...

**Posted:** Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:58 pm **Author:** James1978 **Post subject:**

Just seen it now on More 4, what a fabulous contestant, just the boxes didn't go his way, that's all

And I also found it odd that the banker gave him such good offers even after the quarter-mill had gone - I would have taken any of the last 3 offers given the board, but then again, he was in it for the game, and a modest 4 figure sum wouldn't make much difference to him so why not?

8 is fast becoming THE train-wreck box - only Ron has gone to the end with it and won a good sum, all other decent wins with it have been deals. Only twice has it contained a red that isn't an honorary blue, almost as bad a record as Box 14!

**Joined:** Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:36 pm **Warnings:** 0

The last couple of offers were very generous, but I think I'd have turned them down as well - if I ended up with £15k as my highest box left by the fifth offer I don't think there'd be an offer that could get rid of me. I'd just think "not my day" and go to the end to see what I had...£3,950 and £2,500 would be pretty disappointing results, really, regardless of the generosity.

**Posted:** Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:06 pm **Author:** Ian W **Post subject:**

Well done John

**Joined:** Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:00 pm **Warnings:** 0

I'm sure I'd play the board as it stood at the time. I'd have gone at the fifth offer, I don't think I'd have gone earlier.

Just think... if John had played in February he might have cracked the sequences, and would we even have a show still if that had happened?

**Posted:** Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:59 pm **Author:** no.1tomfan **Post subject:**

I was looking forward to him putting Newton Abbot on the map being the first 250k-er. Oh well, his game was great and £1 is more than most of us have got here!!!

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'Tingle' John 09/10

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