SimonF wrote:

Cast your mind back about 15 years with gameshows like Play Your Cards Right which had end games that were impossible to win if the producers decided the star prize wasn't going to be won that week

The packs of cards were tied by a ribbon and couldn't have tampered with. ("Did you cut the cards? Did you see them cut the cards?"). Knowing what cards would be used in the end game is impossible. How can they predict when the teams will get it wrong, freeze or change the base card?

Back to DOND Bel did the right thing in Dealing the Banker's Gamble. 11 and a bit times her stake on a 50/50 chance was too good to refuse.

That's not strictly true. I've been watching a few repeats recently and for the end game, the cards are simply brought out from backstage. They could have been placed in any order that the producers wanted (and this is probably what happened) thus giving the producers a large degree of influence on whether there'd be a big win or not that week.

What in God's name are you on about?

It's funny for someone who came out of retirement, become guest commentator, what ever they call themselves to come out of the dark to post about a 1p winner last month and mumble about it. Yet, they come out of retirement again to post on the same event happening this month. So am I guessing this "guest commentator" will make their next post when the next person wins 1p? Frankly, this person is boring and tiring me.



Tell that to Alice.



You got that wrong. The show is currently under contract to December 2010. Season 5 will end in July 2010, that means there will be a sixth season.



There are many reasons why the U.S. production may not return. Unlike here (where it's five networks), there are many networks (many in each U.S. State) over there don't have faith in the show and air it at 1am. For those who do air it in normal hours nobody watches anyway, this is because there are better shows on other channels. The main problem with the show over there is the format. They have tried to carry over the European daytime formula to American waters and it hasn't worked. Where here, France, Italy, Holland have contestants on the show until they play their game. The U.S. version have a different set of 22 contestants every five days. So if you get to appear on the show and don't get picked after your fifth appearance on the show, you go home. Imagine David appearing on the show, biggest fan etc.. only not to get picked at random after the fifth show and told to go home. Same with the case selection rounds they use. Other countiries use a simple and memorable process to picking boxes (6-5-4-3-2-1 etc or 5-3-3-3-3-3) but they have an awkward process, something like 4-3-2-2-2-2-1. Also don't get me started on the biased editing (20 contestants advising No Deal, 1 advising Deal).

She made a wise decision but it didn't pay off. Alice did the same but luckily for her, it did pay off and she won £250,000 as a result. Actually, I just had a look at Alice's thread again and you were pleased that she'd taken the 1p vs £250k banker's gamble. To quote you, "This will be a historic moment either way", so obviously you're occasionally in favour of them....


Illogical. I don't see the sense behind that statement. The fact that she took it well shows she knew what she was doing and could handle the result.

I didn't notice that before. I still do not believe they swapped the cards about.

I saw the end of this in the gym, but otherwise haven't seen any in ages - when the Banker said that if she won 1p she'd be the first person not to be invited back, does that mean other people have before now?! I can't find any evidence of it but don't understand why he phrased it like that if not...

hard luck bel sorry didn,t work out but good decision to take the gamble

There was when they (mostly) all came back in Zoe & Zara's game when they had the fancy dress party in Banker's Birthday week in '08, and also loads of them re-appeared in the 1000th show and build-ups where the pilgrims were ex-contestants!

Bel was unlucky, but in no way can she have any regrets about the decisions she made. I thought she'd get the BG and she was right to take it when you think that she had dealt 31K below the 2 box average. She handled it really well, and I hope that she gets all the perks of being a 1p winner whatever they are!

i think her decision was right to take the bankers gamble, but bel was very unlucky to have 1p in her box. I wonder if the producers show the big wins to all contestants when they are there, either when they just arrive or just before their game? plz reply bk. danny

The values of the cards in the PYCR end game were too predictable to be random (the amount of times a pair came or a King after a Queen etc).

Your reaction makes me laugh, Travis. The answer is that you lot are very fun to play with, and the fact that some of you go ballistic when I comment on something is even funnier. Yes, I only comment on the 1pisher (Google "pisher" to find the definition) games is because they're the only ones worth commenting on. They're the worst games, and thus, they require commentary. If they were smart, they'd cap entry into the 1pisher hotel at 30 members, because this is becoming ridiculous. Yes, it's a hotel now because the [insert name of current 1pisher club vehicle here] is nearing capacity.

I agree, the U.S. version is complete rubbish, and it will get canned at season's end. Don't expect this incarnation to make it past 2012, though. If Edmonds leaves, just replace him with Justin Lee Collins. He looks exactly the same, only with more hair.

I am pure evil, and it's taken you lot four years to figure it out. Amazing.

>>Somebody has to put the amounts in the boxes and if it were a member of the production team who choose who plays each day, then it would give rise to accusations that some days the £250k would be put deliberately in the players box and some days the 1p.<<

I suppose the fact that the players don't play in order, means that theoretically the producers could choose some one to play who they knew had a low number in their box if they wanted to. Theoretically...

The numbers are in the boxes before the players pick their ball out of the bag to decide what number they get.

I think.