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alexandercbrown

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:49 pm    Author: alexandercbrown    Post subject:

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basicasic wrote:
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But people who say "I'm sure it's here" are talking *beep* because they can't be sure of anything.


Well why do they say it then? If they're not sure shut up!

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They're all guessing and Stevie was clever enough to realise that the box was no heavier than any other feckin box, unless there was a brick in it!


Which is why he kept on about the £100k being in his box after he'd dealt. :?

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However, because the £100,000 was there everyone is saying "oh, you were sure, you should have gone for it!" Had he been sure and it was £50 you'd have all called him an idiot.


He said he was sure. If he's not sure why say he is sure? If he hadn't mentioned the £100k in his box repeatedly it would have been just another poor deal. The fact that he kept on and on about it made the deal seem so much worse that it actually was.

All this 'certainty' about what's in your box does nothing but set you up to look an idiot whatever happens as far as I can see.


i do agree with you there basicasic people shouldn't say they know it's there. i would have respected Stevie a lot more if he hadn't said that or gone for it, if he had this belief.


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alexandercbrown

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:00 pm    Author: alexandercbrown    Post subject:

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h2005 wrote:
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No one would deal at 40k with a 10K 100K finish its just one of thsoe things you just don't do unless you really are 1 a bit cowardly or 2 you don't want 100K which I cannot belive.


Well if someone came on the show with a £40,000 target they will deal. I think the above applies to situations like £75,000 and £100,000 where there is little gap between the values and there isn't any point dealing to have a stab at the 100k with a guaranteed win of £75,000. Yesterday's situation was similar but with £50,000 so the gap is bigger.


Indeed, the "gap" has a lot to do with it and I would probably no deal on a £50k vs £75k board unless the offer was an AMO... this also applies to other pairings, such as £35k and £50k and so on... the only one I would be unsure about is £100k vs £250k as the gap between them is considerably more than other pairings.


i can't wait til we're discussing the year ago thread in a few hours. It'll be hilarious. ;) :)


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Jon_

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:03 pm    Author: Jon_    Post subject:

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Just remember Stevie those people who went away with 1p or not much more - they wud love to be in your shoes and gone away with 10,000 pounds - was hoping u would get the big one but good luck and dont think many people would have gambled away 10,000 - to my mind any thing in the thousands is still beating the banker.


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JO!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:13 pm    Author: JO!    Post subject:
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If Stevie believed he had the £100,000 why did he say Deal? He should believed in himself and went on till the end. But well done on £10,000


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james_bwfc

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:39 pm    Author: james_bwfc    Post subject: Re: Arrogance and Stuff
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steviek wrote:
Hello Everybody and thanks for the messages..

Believe me if you have not been there and sat in the seat it is very hard to judge what you would do.
When you have seen your friends go home with £2.50 ,and also seen some contestants going that gamble too far taking a nice sum of 10k is very sensible.

To win the big money you have to take the big gamble. I wasn,t willing to walk away with nothing.

Of course I was gutted for a few hours not to have won the 100k but in all honesty I am very happy with the whole experience and the 10k was a bonus.

As for being Arrogant???? Can you tell me what came accross as arrogance please?


Best Wishes

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It isn't nice seeing people win nothing but it doesn't at all mean your game will go the same way. Like Vicky said, don't be put off doing what she did because of the outcome.


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alexandercbrown

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:42 pm    Author: alexandercbrown    Post subject: Re: Arrogance and Stuff

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james_bwfc wrote:
steviek wrote:
Hello Everybody and thanks for the messages..

Believe me if you have not been there and sat in the seat it is very hard to judge what you would do.
When you have seen your friends go home with £2.50 ,and also seen some contestants going that gamble too far taking a nice sum of 10k is very sensible.

To win the big money you have to take the big gamble. I wasn,t willing to walk away with nothing.

Of course I was gutted for a few hours not to have won the 100k but in all honesty I am very happy with the whole experience and the 10k was a bonus.

As for being Arrogant???? Can you tell me what came accross as arrogance please?


Best Wishes

Stevie


It isn't nice seeing people win nothing but it doesn't at all mean your game will go the same way. Like Vicky said, don't be put off doing what she did because of the outcome.


He had a 60% chance of taking out the 100K but on the on the other hand he only had a 10% chance of being left with 2 blues and a good chance of scraping a few grand if the 100K went. That's why i would have gone on.

People can be horrendously unlucky (like Vicky) but that's rare. You have to assume average luck really to play this game.


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redrum666

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:46 pm    Author: redrum666    Post subject:
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But scraping a few grand isn't very good when you've been offered £10,001 is it really? I personally thought the deal was very justified and one of the better deals of the series. Unfortunately, it ultimately didn't pay off.

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alexandercbrown

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:52 pm    Author: alexandercbrown    Post subject:

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redrum666 wrote:
But scraping a few grand isn't very good when you've been offered £10,001 is it really? I personally thought the deal was very justified and one of the better deals of the series. Unfortunately, it ultimately didn't pay off.


I think it's just that the offer seemed slightly poor, I probably would have dealt at say 15K given what Joe and Jayne were offered earlier in the year (though they were admittedly very inflated).
I'm slightly biased as a viewer as I wanted another amazing game after yesterday. I wanted him to go for it and deal at the 40K perhaps.
If the 10K had been replaced with a blue I would have advocated a deal more.

We can look on the bright side though and be pleased that there's only been 2 blue wins out of 15 games.
The average win in season 3 is a healthy £23,677.94 as well

And Stevie's the 8th All blue rounder isn't he? :?

After Shell, Aaron, Khanny, Matt, Margaret, Betty, Kathleen?


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22identicalboxes

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:54 pm    Author: 22identicalboxes    Post subject:

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It does annoy me a bit when the player says "I know x amount is here!", but I thought Stevie came across as being quite a nice chap. I'd probably have dealt when he did, too.


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CrazyChair

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:56 pm    Author: CrazyChair    Post subject: Re: Arrogance and Stuff

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steviek wrote:
Hello Everybody and thanks for the messages..

Believe me if you have not been there and sat in the seat it is very hard to judge what you would do.
When you have seen your friends go home with £2.50 ,and also seen some contestants going that gamble too far taking a nice sum of 10k is very sensible.

To win the big money you have to take the big gamble. I wasn,t willing to walk away with nothing.

Of course I was gutted for a few hours not to have won the 100k but in all honesty I am very happy with the whole experience and the 10k was a bonus.

As for being Arrogant???? Can you tell me what came accross as arrogance please?


Best Wishes

Stevie


Hi Stevie. I think dealing when you did was sensible. Winning a blue amount isn't a nice prospect! I think I'd have gone to the end in your game, simply because it was box 5, and that's my lucky number. Well done on the £10,001. Hope you enjoy spending it!


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Vicky Walsh

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:11 am    Author: Vicky Walsh    Post subject:

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Sometimes when playing, you just get a feeling of what is in there. When that does happen, like in stevies case, you become even more cautious because u don't want to bat away sums of money just cos u have some fanciful ideas in your head that its in your box. No way on this earth could i, or most others, have turned down 10k at that point.

Many people predict what is in their boxes guys, brian for example, that is no different to what stevie did. its just stevie had 10k resting on his 'gut feeling' and that changes everything!! if he had gone with the feeling, and there was only a blue in there, people would have said he was stupid to get so carried away with it. Can't win!! :lol:

well done stevie and enjoy every last penny. xx


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alexandercbrown

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:25 am    Author: alexandercbrown    Post subject:

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Vicky Walsh wrote:
Sometimes when playing, you just get a feeling of what is in there. When that does happen, like in stevies case, you become even more cautious because u don't want to bat away sums of money just cos u have some fanciful ideas in your head that its in your box. No way on this earth could i, or most others, have turned down 10k at that point.

Many people predict what is in their boxes guys, brian for example, that is no different to what stevie did. its just stevie had 10k resting on his 'gut feeling' and that changes everything!! if he had gone with the feeling, and there was only a blue in there, people would have said he was stupid to get so carried away with it. Can't win!! :lol:

well done stevie and enjoy every last penny. xx


he shoulldn't have mentioned the 'feeling' if he was unsure. I would have respected him for that! The same way as in Brian's game. 'Feelings' are just silly in this game . (sorry to sound cynical). If he said ooer I might have the 100K in here but I'm not sure. I don't know if I should go for it or not, that would have been fine.


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Rich D

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:37 am    Author: Rich D    Post subject:

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Not too bothered by the players' feelings - it all adds to the intrigue of the game IMHO - and the discussions afterward!

My own gut reaction to Stevie's deal: If I had a wife that gorgeous and she wanted me to go on and I wanted to go on, then Please ask me the question Noel.

But in reality, if I wanted to do something really wonderful for someone really special, and I was offered more than enough to achieve the dream, and there was a risk I'd lose it all... I'd pause... and think... and sigh with relief... and Deal.

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basicasic

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:50 am    Author: basicasic    Post subject:
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redrum666 wrote:
But scraping a few grand isn't very good when you've been offered £10,001 is it really? I personally thought the deal was very justified and one of the better deals of the series. Unfortunately, it ultimately didn't pay off.


Just scraping £10001 isn't very good when £100k was sat in your box waitng to be won as well as a £40k offer. He probably earns £10k in less than 6 months. Hardly life changing money. £100k is though.

I thought the point of big money shows was to at least attempt to go for the big prizes. If your sole aim is to get an easy few thousand you shouldn't be going on DOND in my opinion.

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Rich D

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:59 am    Author: Rich D    Post subject:

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basicasic wrote:
I thought the point of big money shows was to at least attempt to go for the big prizes. If your sole aim is to get an easy few thousand you shouldn't be going on DOND in my opinion.


Interesting point, Basic. When I started watching the prog in 2006 I was of exactly the same opinion... but there are numerous players I wish could've got an easy few thousand & didn't get anywhere near!

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Rich D

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:08 am    Author: Rich D    Post subject:

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...Or, to put it another way: IMHO the beauty of DOND, what elevates it above other Big Money shows, is that it allows different contestants to play to their own personal definition of Big Money... and the freedom for others to play to the board & see how it goes.

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Vicky Walsh

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:15 am    Author: Vicky Walsh    Post subject:

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yes, dond is not a cash machine and should not be treated as a source of income, simple as that. i think any decision a person makes is obviously right for them, and that is all that matters.

It would be wonderful if people knew what was in the boxes and trip along happily knowing they would have 100k in their box, but we don't! so its all about risk. 10k was enough for stevie, simple.

I took the risk and lost, big time! lol, others will take it and win HUGE sums of money, some will take the consolation prize. That is what makes it a beautiful game.

Opinions and debate are fantastic, but i find it a useful life tip not to judge people when you don't know them, perhaps just sticking to debating the game as opposed to the person.


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Vicky Walsh

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:17 am    Author: Vicky Walsh    Post subject:

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lol, just posted my comment before i saw your last one rich! your statement is a more concise version of mine.

lovely sentence.
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Rich D

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:21 am    Author: Rich D    Post subject:

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:-) :-) :-)

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:46 am    Author: alexandercbrown    Post subject:

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