I would consider it if it was bang on the mean and less than 165K definitely no deal but I think most people would no deal.
Even Kelsie said she'd no deal 160K on 75K vs 250K!

Well after looking at various posts from yourself I believe you have just passed your exams - well done. When you use your qualifications to get a good job you will realise that £10,000 is not as good as it seems. As a standalone amount £10,000 is a lovely amount but when you're working (and in your case, working a very good job with all those A's) it's not as gigantic as people think it is. For the dole hoggers and people with a lot of debt they'll never have seen £10,000 in their life and it seems everyone comes on DOND is like this! If you manage your money right earning £10,000 a year is.... nothing. Obviously there are plenty of people who earn more than £20,000 a year and this leads me to believe most people don't need the money but take it without thinking about the possible gain because... they might not want to work for it and retire early!

OK, I now can't have a go at you because of all of those compliments!!

Yes, OK, I understand that the average earner gets over £20,000 a year but if you add £10,000 to that it is still a hell of a lot of money and can buy a lot of things that most people wouldn't buy with their wages. A lot of people on the show go for some bonus money to treat themselves and I think that that is fair enough. Personally, I don't think that the potential gain matters that much because a lot of people will lie in the proveout without even intending to do it because their brain wants them to win. Sounds odd I know but it is logical. I'd rather have £20,000 with a potential gain of £30,000 than 1p and a loss of £19,999.99.

Interesting. As I have stated on this forum before, I am a student, but not the "typical" British student - I am still living at home (a trend which I am assured is taking off in mainland Europe) and don't go out boozing, meaning I don't generate the sort of expenditure that your average student may generate.

You'd expect the average student, or "dole hogger" to be quite cautious... and see £10k as a huge sum of money that they have never ever seen before in their life. However, without wanting to talk about my financial situation in detail, I will say that, as I stated earlier, I have saved money by not being a typical student - I go by places on bike which saves bus fare, I live at home, I don't buy unnecessary things and so on - which means that I could be in a position to be a bit of a gambler due to this extra money I have saved... but I'm not, I'm still quite
cautious.

The job I'm going in to at the end of my course will hopefully be very well paid, so again, I could be in a position to have a gambling mind set but I don't - and I think this proves that it is more to do with the individual's value of money, rather than based on how much money they have / earn / will earn.



Actually, the average wage in this country is about £25,000 pre-tax - meaning that after taxes have been decuted, which would be about £5,000, £10,000 is about half of the average wage post tax - that's 6 months' work for most people!

I agree with what you've stated. I'm 18 and would say that 10K is a significant sum of money and should be taken seriously but it is not exactly 'massive'/'lifechanging.
I would risk it in dond if I thought there was a chance of more money but it should be taken seriously if it is offered.
I don't see why everyone would have a sod it all go to the end approach even if they have good earnings because some people would rather guarantee a decent sum e.g.20K than just 'risk' ending up with a blue.

I think its to do an individuals value of money, their current circumstances, their ambitions and goals, and most importantly their nature. My father is ultra cautious by nature and my mom is a bit of a gambler.

I'm a blend of the 2 with decent enough current circumstances and no real ambitions (eg flat, house, car etc) and am happy to go away with nothing as I haven't lost anything.

As a student I'm sure I would think very carefully before throwing away, say, a guaranteed £20k on an all or peanuts gamble.

I have to say that I'd have been genuinely unsure at what to do at both £10,001 (and indeed £40,000 if I'd got that far) today - the offers in the latter stages at least were very well-pitched. Still, the deal was really surprising given everything he said leading up to it, and the rubbing the box nonsense - it was as if he'd just gone back on everything he said!

It really could have been Gaz part 2.

I have to admit to finding the proveout somewat funny given his arrogance, which sounds an awful thing to say, but I can't say I warmed to him very much sadly. I'd have been more upset if it hadn't been someone who was not so confident about the box contents, and thought there might have been a blue in there etc, etc...

And furthermore another factor which I think plays a great deal on contestant's minds is the looking stupid in front of others. This encourages them to deal. Contestants don't want to look silly or greedy by turning down a decent offer and then having the bottom fall out of their game.

If the opposite happens, if they deal and could have got more, they always say well I'm satisfied with £x that I've dealt for. Which is fair enough.

Although in today's case I think the gap between £10k deal and £100k in the box wasn't enough to save him from looking a bit of a plonker. Especially as he kept on and on about it being in his box.

I can understand why anyone would rather have the money right there instead of trying for more with the potential of losing it all. It's the situation where you really don't have anything to lose when I question the logic behind a deal! Kathleen for example had nothing to lose despite a blue being on the board. If she was desperate for the money she would take the offer in the worst case situation, a blue and £20,000. It's a better consolation for losing the gamble (which was very unlikely in the first place) than winning the blue at the end. That's why I don't understand when people on here (and on the show) say "I can't risk losing X for this blue Y" on boards where you would get a decent offer for the worst possible situation.

As much as "a couple of grand" isn't a lifechanging money in most people's books I keep getting the impression people do come on the show to quickly gain this amount of money instead of working for it. Maybe Ann Widdecombe should give them a word or two

Most of you lot are students which is why I can totally see why some of you are uber-cautious. However hardly anyone who plays DOND are students!

He also had the 5K and the 10k, it wasn't totally all or peanuts . He was likely to scrape a few grand out of it if he ,lost the 100K so might as well have gone for it.

If it was more precarious e.g. 3 blues/ 1k/100K I would have advised a deal.

i know people need to take calculated punts sometimes and realise the odds sometimes. Kathleen's deal was statistically foolish as there was so much on the board. An 80% of 20K which on it's own was a lot of money so she might as well have gone for it.
Sometimes people don't assess the board enough and realise the potential but alot of the time it's a grey area and could go either way so I don't mind.
People should assume average luck anyway, the 10% disaster scenario was very unlikely!
People need to be more situation driven and play the board.

Wow, that game swung around a bit! Well done Stevie though!

H, i agree with you. I would deal on a 100k/250k offer (especially if it was around 160-175,000).

Sorry you didn't go all the way Stevie, but enjoy a cool 10 grand!

Redrum its not *beep* its just my perception and how i'd personally feel about the money, Do not forget the money your gambling is nothing you already have so to me its like came with nothing go back to how I was before and if I generally in life am financially fine I see no problem risking your GAME Money. If I did not try for the uber money if the board was good enough or with the right final two i'd be more annoyed going home with the offer and then finding out I woulda had way more.

Your perception is different then fine.

I mean I can safely say if im ever fortunete enough to get on the show yer I know the odds lol and I was lucky enough to get to the end in play with 250K or 100K in final two I can safely say i'd no deal anything really as long as the fall back was 20K minimum or 10K min for 100K Unless the offer was stupid then less.

Stevie was a good bloke and was fun but he was silly to deal at the point he did 10K and £1 was not so good for the board lets be right.

And if your so sure the biggie is in your box I mean adamently sure like he was then you should see it through, and as today again proved along with several other past players who were adament they had the biggie in the box, they deal despite been so sure and then look and feel like fools when they find they were right.

It happens alot seemingly.

But people who say "I'm sure it's here" are talking *beep* because they can't be sure of anything. They're all guessing and Stevie was clever enough to realise that the box was no heavier than any other feckin box, unless there was a brick in it! However, because the £100,000 was there everyone is saying "oh, you were sure, you should have gone for it!" Had he been sure and it was £50 you'd have all called him an idiot.

Hello Everybody and thanks for the messages..

Believe me if you have not been there and sat in the seat it is very hard to judge what you would do.
When you have seen your friends go home with £2.50 ,and also seen some contestants going that gamble too far taking a nice sum of 10k is very sensible.

To win the big money you have to take the big gamble. I wasn,t willing to walk away with nothing.

Of course I was gutted for a few hours not to have won the 100k but in all honesty I am very happy with the whole experience and the 10k was a bonus.

As for being Arrogant???? Can you tell me what came accross as arrogance please?


Best Wishes

Stevie

You'll all be very suprised to hear that I actually watched all of DoND today (well, Sols had it on and I couldn't be bothered to move)

Anyway, I loved Stevie

He was so sweet. And he looked just like that bloke off Coronation Street. I cant remember what he's called, so thats not much help I suppose...

So well done on your £10,001 Stevie!!

Woo yer, I actually know what somebody won. Go me!

Stevie You were right to go when you did, the game was posed precariously, you could have come away with a blue figure, and certainly alot less than 10k, games swing both ways. I'm delighted for you, and the MRS!! Have a great Holiday!!


Stephen

Well why do they say it then? If they're not sure shut up!



Which is why he kept on about the £100k being in his box after he'd dealt.



He said he was sure. If he's not sure why say he is sure? If he hadn't mentioned the £100k in his box repeatedly it would have been just another poor deal. The fact that he kept on and on about it made the deal seem so much worse that it actually was.

All this 'certainty' about what's in your box does nothing but set you up to look an idiot whatever happens as far as I can see.

It's all to make themselves look confident in front of the banker. Also, they are trying to psychologically convince themselves.



That's worry. That is also psychological however, it was the case this time unfortunately.



See my reply to your first comment.