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dondloverr

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:53 pm    Author: dondloverr    Post subject: Eric's sympathy offers

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Does anyone else feel its unfair on people like Adam etc that Eric got blatenly higher offers than if he wasn't blind or do people disagree with me here?


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alexandercbrown

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:59 pm    Author: alexandercbrown    Post subject:

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It was because he gave good advice not being blind but I'm suspicious that the 4th offer might have been pitched too high for the feel good factor on the sunday episode. Players like Graeme have scared the banker though and got high offers. Eric wasn't stupid and recognised that a lot of recent offers were rubbish. The banker saw this and gave good offers


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:00 pm    Author: redrum666    Post subject:
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totally disagree. Eric got good offers because he read the game and the banker perfectly.

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never_wrong

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:00 pm    Author: never_wrong    Post subject:

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Adam got high offers on an arguably weaker board than Eric. Loads of people get "higher" offers than perhaps you'd expect - I wouldn't think there'll all done out of symapthy.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:05 pm    Author: kestral    Post subject:
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dondloverr wrote:
Does anyone else feel its unfair on people like Adam etc that Eric got blatenly higher offers than if he wasn't blind or do people disagree with me here?

Totally disagree.

Think you are looking for something that isn't there. I agree with the above replies...


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Tom

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:20 pm    Author: Tom    Post subject:

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Yep, i disagree.


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Big-Davey

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:26 pm    Author: Big-Davey    Post subject:
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Those who win the Banker's respect win his money.

Look at Howard - currently holds the record for the best ever opening offer - £18,000 despite losing the £250,000! And why? Because the Banker liked him!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:29 pm    Author: KP    Post subject:
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Perhaps you can even say the Banker actually realised that reasonably generous offers would save him money against rational calculating players - and Eric was unquestionably one - because bad ones forcing No Deals would increase his liability to the mean, when it was obviously possible to get him out for less provided this was not done to excess, Laura-style...

Frankly, I think you'd actually have to go looking for bad in that game!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:46 pm    Author: h2005    Post subject:
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Eric's offers were high because he gave out sound advice on the wings and the banker respected him and knew he could be a gambler which was why the offers were high, nothing at all to do with him being blind in my opinion.


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cookie_monster

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:53 pm    Author: cookie_monster    Post subject:
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I can Kind of see what you are saying, But I have to disagree... He was a very redpected player and was the daddy of the group

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never_wrong

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:28 pm    Author: never_wrong    Post subject:

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Big-Davey wrote:
Those who win the Banker's respect win his money.

Look at Howard - currently holds the record for the best ever opening offer - £18,000 despite losing the £250,000! And why? Because the Banker liked him!


I thought I'd take this one before Daniel......

Matt Borer got a £20k opening offer and Howard didn't lose the QUiM until the second round. But yes, I agree with your sentiment. Andrew was blind but didn't get particularly generous "sympathy" offers.


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James1978

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:45 pm    Author: James1978    Post subject:

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It was just like people such as original Trevor, Aaron and Paul H getting great offers for the board they had - all of them justifiably had gained the banker's respect, and they had no kind of disability!

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dondloverr

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:50 pm    Author: dondloverr    Post subject:

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i understand what everyone is saying but 27k when all he had was 250k then a massive drop to 20k? i just think if i was the banker i would have pitched it at 15k.


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h2005

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:30 pm    Author: h2005    Post subject:
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never_wrong wrote:
Matt Borer got a £20k opening offer and Howard didn't lose the QUiM until the second round. But yes, I agree with your sentiment. Andrew was blind but didn't get particularly generous "sympathy" offers.


It was the tactics of the banker in the following game, Wine Richard's, which sparked debate as to whether the banker was offering a cheque for Andrew etc. because he was blind...


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CrazyChair

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:25 am    Author: CrazyChair    Post subject:

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I don't think that Eric was given particularly generous offers. His offers were good for the board, Eric gave good advice in the wings. It would be completely unfair if he was given high offers because of his disability. I have a disability myself, and I would hate to be treated differently to an able bodied contestant. I'm sure Eric feels the same.


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rico7

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:52 am    Author: rico7    Post subject:
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I don't think Eric's offers were that generous. If he hadn't picked out
the 250K in the 5th round then the proveout offer would likely have increased.


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