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jmas07

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:50 pm    Author: jmas07    Post subject: People trying to get a good impression on the banker
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As well as the 'Thank you very much Mr. Banker blah blah blah' a lot of people try to get the banker scared, and that's by saying they are gamblers, when they probably aren't! The obvious people like Jeff and Khanny obviously are gamblers but there are definately people who say they take risks, gamble frequently, etc. just to scare the banker and squeeze an extra thousand out of him! And then take the offer!

As well as that, there are a lot of people who say that they are going to go to the end regardless of what offer is made, and then bail out while the going is good! Take Pat G...

A slightly lesser version of this 'boasting' is "I am here for the £250,000 and nothing else!" and then bail out again a lot earlier with the £250,000 stilll there! Take Kerry today, Kerry said she was coming for the £250,000. Then if she was coming for the £250,000 then why did she deal? I know the offer was a great one, but either she was trying to boast to the banker, or she was just £250,000 crazy, not realising that there will be incredibly tough decisions along the way!


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jmas07

PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:33 pm    Author: jmas07    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:56 pm    Author: Power5    Post subject:
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Bump.

Your point being... :? Oh, you want some comments. I get it...

Bluffing the Banker's all part of the game, if you can do it convincingly then it makes sense as it's going to help you get more money out of it. Anyone would think you just wanted everyone to no-deal to the end, rather like someone who used to post here... what was his name again? ;)

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:18 pm    Author: Unix eight    Post subject:
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I actually agree with that, same with Steven:
"Well, eh, I actually like came here, and I would like neva deal while ive thstill got 3 of the powa 5 yeh, yeh know OK?!"
Deals at 3rd offer with 4 of the power five. *groans* :?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:19 pm    Author: basicasic    Post subject:
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I'm well past the stage of believing a word that anybody says about the way they are going to play the game. We were fed some prime bull in March with various players flatly contradicting things they had said moments before as soon as the banker waved a sizeable offer (good or bad) under their noses.

If we're not fooled then for certain the banker isn't. He knows that everybody has their price irrespective of the board thats in front of them. Its a matter of finding it. He miscalculated with Laura but got it spot on with Steven and Kelsie who both could have had lots more with a bit more guts.

Its hard to believe the £250,000 will ever be won again.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:43 pm    Author: daniel123    Post subject:
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And i suspect that DoND will only run, realistically, to before christmas this year, so yes i would have to go with you basicasic. And kerry yesterday, why deal at £35k when you want the £250,000?

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CrazyChair

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:10 am    Author: CrazyChair    Post subject:

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daniel123 wrote:
why deal at £35k when you want the £250,000?


Because £35k is a lot of money and Kerry may not have been in a financial position to risk it for the sake of a number on a board.


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KP

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:02 am    Author: KP    Post subject:
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And as it turned out Kerry was absolutely right to go.

Ultimately, given that the Banker is played up as a psychological character and his offers are made accordingly (something the US and Aussie versions do only occasionally and the Dutch one not at all), it's not a surprise that the players are involved in the mind games too. If they didn't, it could be one-way traffic and the players would then potentially be trampled...

I agree that the top prize won't be won again, though. The show is fading fast enough in the ratings to imply its days may be numbered, and we are seeing the same post-Laura super-high offers but not the same post-Laura oblivious-to-money contestants.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:14 am    Author: basicasic    Post subject:
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Because £35k is a lot of money and Kerry may not have been in a financial position to risk it for the sake of a number on a board.


Thats fair enough except she shrieked and screeched umpteen times about being there to win the £250,000 and then bailed out with it and the £100,000 still on the board.

Whats wrong with being honest and saying I'm here to get the best offer I can and then I'm gone ? Its not as if she or any of the others have fooled the banker. He knows that as soon as he waves a wad of cash under their noses they'll be off regardless of the £250,000 being in play.

I'm just sick of listening to bull**** from players who have no intention of going for the £250,000.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:51 am    Author: AVIE    Post subject:
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Well, some of those first round offers have been pretty damn good lately. Do you reckon the day will ever come that someone DOES take the first offers (apart from Nan on the comic relief show???) :lol: :lol:

I loved that when Noel says, 'But Nan, no-one ever deals at the FIRST offer' and she says, 'No, cos they're all greedy B*****DS!' Classic comedy that was, I loved that and Peter Kay and Matt Lucas's 500 miles

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:41 pm    Author: jmas07    Post subject:
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AVIE wrote:
Well, some of those first round offers have been pretty *beep* good lately. Do you reckon the day will ever come that someone DOES take the first offers (apart from Nan on the comic relief show???) :lol: :lol:

I loved that when Noel says, 'But Nan, no-one ever deals at the FIRST offer' and she says, 'No, cos they're all greedy B*****DS!' Classic comedy that was, I loved that and Peter Kay and Matt Lucas's 500 miles

The opening offers nowadays shouldn't be classed as good, they should be classed as ridiculously high! And I don't think it prevents people from chasing the money if they get nothing higher, just look at recent examples where the first or second offer has been the highest and people are still bailing out at at later stages!


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:43 pm    Author: ciderduck    Post subject:
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daniel123 wrote:
why deal at £35k when you want the £250,000?


and i'm sure kerry would've gotten a lot of grief had she gone on and blown the lot. right deal right time, it does get a bit boring when folk crash out on their own greed, i've no sympathy for those types and its not enjoyable to watch


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jmas07

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:49 pm    Author: jmas07    Post subject:
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ciderduck wrote:
daniel123 wrote:
why deal at £35k when you want the £250,000?


and i'm sure kerry would've gotten a lot of grief had she gone on and blown the lot. right deal right time, it does get a bit boring when folk crash out on their own greed, i've no sympathy for those types and its not enjoyable to watch


You might say it isn't enjoyable to watch, but I find those types of games exciting and tense, as opposed to games like Kelsie's or Steven's, which I find extremely tedious nowadays. They've won a good amount of money, good on them. But I feel they are showing DOND on the TV for more than us just watching them winning 'X' amount of money, and feeling great for them. We need excitment on DOND as well as the 'deal low, but at the right time' ones. And when I say low, I mean a great deal lower than what's on the board. I'd like £10,000 anyday but if there is £250,000 on the board you can't get me out!

If I have a favourite player, I will cheer them on throughout the whole game, no matter how cautious/greedy they are.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:00 pm    Author: ciderduck    Post subject:
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good point there re Kelsie & Stephen-esp with stephen's constant advice of 'never deal if the big three are there'-that showed him! I remember Kelsie gave similar advice-but i guess she bottled it too....the kind of games i really dislike are the dizzy foolish types who see one big number and nothing else, not even a good offer in front of them, and it all goes tts up...and on the same end of the spectrum, the dmn unlucky ones like philomena's.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:00 pm    Author: jmas07    Post subject:
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Steve: "I am here for 6 figures"

So he takes, only just, 5 figures. Assuming he would have had to gamble some great offers to get those 6 figures, he still deals for £10,000 with more in play!


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jmas07 wrote:
Steve: "I am here for 6 figures"

So he takes, only just, 5 figures. Assuming he would have had to gamble some great offers to get those 6 figures, he still deals for £10,000 with more in play!


he's like steven, only i hate steven more because he is a liar.

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Steven's deal - WHY AT 11-box and WHY deal when you hasve said you would no deal with 3 or more of the P5 in play, and you have the top four???I despise liars. But only liars who have no reason to lie.

Steve - Well. £10k was way above the Average, let alone the FD. that was the one instance where i would take £10,000 when i had said at the beginning that i was there for £250,000.

But i would just be there for some money that wasn't a deal.

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jmas07 wrote:
Steve: "I am here for 6 figures"

So he takes, only just, 5 figures. Assuming he would have had to gamble some great offers to get those 6 figures, he still deals for £10,000 with more in play!


Well, 6 figures was impossible at the point at which he dealt. And the £10k was more than just great...as the other Daniel says, it was above the mean!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:26 pm    Author: jmas07    Post subject:
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daniel4389 wrote:
jmas07 wrote:
Steve: "I am here for 6 figures"

So he takes, only just, 5 figures. Assuming he would have had to gamble some great offers to get those 6 figures, he still deals for £10,000 with more in play!


Well, 6 figures was impossible at the point at which he dealt. And the £10k was more than just great...as the other Daniel says, it was above the mean!

I know 6 figures was impossible, but if there was still 6 figures there and he went for it like he said he would, he would have had to be really brave, which he wasn't on his game!


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:28 pm    Author: daniel4389    Post subject:

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He was...he turned down four pretty damn generous offers before taking a ridiculously generous one.

You know, pointless debates like these remind me of the days when wakey was here. Thank goodness those days are over...

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:31 pm    Author: jmas07    Post subject:
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Pointless debate? You may think so but I don't! :lol:

3 posts, hardly a debate is it?


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