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fairycakes

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:05 pm    Author: fairycakes    Post subject: ok, player positions...

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...i really dont see where some of you are coming from with this stuff. things like "which position suits which gender" threads, "where should the current players stand" and going mad when one place has a man instead of a woman. i just dont get it, like why does it get discussed? why does it matter at all? you can hardly even tell where theyre standing on the tv. im not having a go, im just really curious why its a big deal to some, so any input would be great


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cookie_monster

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:08 pm    Author: cookie_monster    Post subject:
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We are just addicted to the programme - and it is just our opinions and the discussion - the which psition suits which gender was set up by me - and I wanted to see if people have the same opinions as I do. It is also to start discussion. A little mad you think? thats why we call this the Looney Bin ;)

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fairycakes

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:10 pm    Author: fairycakes    Post subject:

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haha fair. yea i can see youre all addicts and i can understand stuff you talk about as any specific board goes into things that outsiders would think are pretty weird topics, but still, i just dont see why anyone cares i suppose


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daniel4389

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:27 pm    Author: daniel4389    Post subject:

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I think I find people saying "Why does anyone care about the positions?" just as irritating as those people find the talk about the positions. I'm not sure if that sentence made any sense. But anyway, my point is that any kind of talk about the show is ultimately completely irrelevant...you might as well take it one step further and say "Why does anyone care about Deal or No Deal in general?". To which there is no real answer...it's all completely pointless, but this forum is here to discuss it, and I don't see why some aspects are more "worthy" than others!

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22identicalboxes

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:28 pm    Author: 22identicalboxes    Post subject:

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Edited.


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22identicalboxes

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:30 pm    Author: 22identicalboxes    Post subject:

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If people didn't talk about things like player positions, there wouldn't be that much to discuss. This forum's about Deal or No Deal, at least we're talking about the show!


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daniel123

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:42 pm    Author: daniel123    Post subject:
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that would be true 22, since this place is for ACTUAL FANS of the show, and perhaps the odd little 10/11 year old or two since its his first forum.

and having said tjat, why is fairycakes here then? Or indeed most of the new members?

back on topic, yes i partially[0.01% to be specific] agree with Dan and mostly[99.99%] agree with CM.

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Mental Mickey

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:49 pm    Author: Mental Mickey    Post subject:
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There are different levels of DOND fandom.

The really extreme fans have a complete encyclopedic knowledge of anything without even having to look it up and take notes of everything no matter how small and irrelevant.

My addiction is nowhere near that extreme when it comes to DOND though I am a Star Trek and Doctor Who addict who could tell you almost anything about those shows without looking it up. We all have certain "specialist subjects" we excel at - mine is Jack the Ripper and the story of the Titanic. I could bore you to death with countless theories on either subject without recourse to a reference book, just as people on here can bore ME to death with threads about where people should stand and whether it matters or not.

As a casual DOND viewer who doesn't give a flying fig where anyone stands (!!), I CAN understand the mindset of the people who live and breathe DOND in the same way that other people immerse themselves into one subject or TV show above all others.

Everyone needs a hobby. Mine isn't Deal or No Deal. For that I am quite grateful. All the statistics and things would fry my brain before too long - I just watch it to be entertained. ;)

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Rhyd

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:52 pm    Author: Rhyd    Post subject:

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I agree and disagree.

If someone's interseted in which gender is in which position, that's fine But if someone's genuinely angry and upset that a man is in a "woman's position" or vice versa, or is on the borderline of quitting watching the show because of it, it gets a bit OTT.

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Tom

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:10 pm    Author: Tom    Post subject:

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I dont really care what gender stands where..


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Chris_M

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:21 am    Author: Chris_M    Post subject:

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Not my words, but words of people who do know what they are talking about: (My comments are in BOLD)

People who suffer from the condition Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder (OCPD) are not aware of anything abnormal about themselves; they will readily explain why their actions are rational, and it is usually impossible to convince them otherwise.

As shown by some posters getting annoyed and exclaiming that normal people were equally as bad in an attempt to justify their own problem.

The tendency to haggle over small details that the viewer is unable to fix or change in any way. This begins a mental pre-occupation with that which is inevitable.

Like it's inevitable that males and females will stand all other the place as the programme makers don't have any policy as to where they stand this is the normal world that they can't cope with and blame anything and everything apart from themselves. The haggling also includes trying to rationalise their condition as normal by saying words to the effect that we are all like that if we watch the snow. This of course just being denial so that they can free good about carrying on.

Specific counting systems — e.g. counting in groups of four, arranging objects in groups of three, grouping objects in odd/even numbered groups, etc.

Grouping and obsession with insignificant numbers like "Back in 1822 contestant 44b scratched his nose 3 times and now we have someone doing it 3 times"

I have never seen a single programme attract this many OCPD people and whilst they are harmless, they really do need to get help.


P.S. As an example, the only thing an OCPD person can do to cope with the confrontation with the reality that this post constitutes, will be to attack the poster. This of course will be totally normal for them and is certainly in line with their condition. They are merely trying to naturalise anything or any situation where they may have to face reality.

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Chris_M

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:25 am    Author: Chris_M    Post subject:

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daniel4389 wrote:
I think I find people saying "Why does anyone care about the positions?" just as irritating as those people find the talk about the positions. I'm not sure if that sentence made any sense. But anyway, my point is that any kind of talk about the show is ultimately completely irrelevant...you might as well take it one step further and say "Why does anyone care about Deal or No Deal in general?". To which there is no real answer...it's all completely pointless, but this forum is here to discuss it, and I don't see why some aspects are more "worthy" than others!


Oh dear. :shock: :? :(


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daniel4389

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:08 am    Author: daniel4389    Post subject:

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Ho ho ho, I see what you did there.

I still maintain that anyone who feels strongly enough about a daytime TV gameshow to sign up to a forum dedicated to it must be at least slightly obsessive...most people would find the mere existence of such a forum quite bizarre. I wouldn't go and sign up to a Doctor Who forum and start posting "Hahah, stop talking about Doctor Who, you sad *beep*". (Although I would dearly love to...)

Also, there's a big difference between this specific forum and the rest of life...it's a DOND forum, so people talk about and get passionate about DOND. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't see friends and family and say "God, did you see Deal or No Deal the other day, they put a man in E11, it's *beep* disgusting"...outside of this forum, it's completely irrelevant and doesn't really cross my mind.

Not that there's any point in me replying, as this'll probably just be dissected in order to prove how mental I am. Ah well...I'm off to slit my wrists over the prospect of a woman standing in E10.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:24 am    Author: James1978    Post subject:

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Watch it happen the game after Steven's - I can just feel it! :)

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Chris_M

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:33 am    Author: Chris_M    Post subject:

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No! there is EVERY difference in people enjoying a game show and having a chat about it on a forum AND people who think that a female should be in a certain position. (That is just nonsense - A female doesn't have to go anywhere and the game was never designed that way - that's obsessional disorder)

But it is very much a part of the condition to see it all as the same thing as that means that the person can consider it normal and not have to do anything about it.

A female has to be in position E10.
(Is the same as saying)
I have to turn the bedroom light switch on and off 3 times.

As I said, no other show that I have been on a forum of has attracted so many OCPD sufferers. I think that is somewhat a fault of the show by attracting people who think the screaming "BLUE" at a piece of paper will make it change colour (That's nonsense as well)

What the show IS, is a late afternoon gameshow where it is interesting to see the different way the person plays the random opening of 22 boxes and the outcome. (We all like seeing people beat the TV by getting large sums of money off them. (Enjoyment by proxy)


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fairycakes

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:59 pm    Author: fairycakes    Post subject:

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Chris_M wrote:
No! there is EVERY difference in people enjoying a game show and having a chat about it on a forum AND people who think that a female should be in a certain position.



exactly thats what im saying, some people dont seem to get that. of course theres fanatics of everything, and people talking b****cks about it on the internet somewhere, i was talking about this particular aspect of it, as i really see no relevance of it at all and dont see why even you fans question it as well. its just my opinion and thats why i made the thread, to see yours or to have it explained


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I think that is somewhat a fault of the show by attracting people who think the screaming "BLUE" at a piece of paper will make it change colour


made me laugh


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never_wrong

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:06 pm    Author: never_wrong    Post subject:

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Daniel, just face it, you're mental. Chris has said so....the sooner you accept it, the better.

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Chris_M

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:32 pm    Author: Chris_M    Post subject:

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never_wrong wrote:
Daniel, just face it, you're mental. Chris has said so....the sooner you accept it, the better.

:roll:


Posted by a person who is "Never Wrong" :roll:

How delightfully ironic.

1 It IS a recognise mental condition

2 You think that screaming hysterically that I'm calling someone "mental" and thereby trying to cause trouble, (complete with rolling eyes) means that the facts that I have quoted are somehow wrong.

It's called denial and PLEASE stop attacking the messenger.

If you don't understand something ASK! Do that instead of causing trouble and proving that you have no knowledge of the subject that you are attacking someone for. You are therefor looking very foolish.

And to answer your rubbish:

Chris didn't say anything Chris posted proof.


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Chris_M

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:44 pm    Author: Chris_M    Post subject:

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fairycakes wrote:
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I think that is somewhat a fault of the show by attracting people who think the screaming "BLUE" at a piece of paper will make it change colour


made me laugh


But that IS the point! People DO! :shock:

Look at the post under yours. To paraphrase it: "How dare you say there is anything wrong with us as we can't cope with that. If you do, we will twist it and try and make it look like it is YOU who is mad and not us who think that screaming at a piece of paper will make it change colour"

That IS Obsessional and Compulsive. Very much like all religions.


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never_wrong

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:49 pm    Author: never_wrong    Post subject:

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Yes, you've got me there. I've been suitably chastised. Schade.


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