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DanS

PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 5:06 pm    Author: DanS    Post subject: Re: Kerry Anne No Deal £140k...
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Neither.

It wasn't stupid because she was prepared to go away with the minimum amount to chase her ambitions, which I personally find commendable. The gamble didn't pay off, but she took it on the chin and didn't look to regret it, so it can't really be regarded as stupid because nobody's written a law where you have to deal if the offer is statistically brilliant. The decision though was the right one for her.

It wasn't greedy because she wasn't after the money with that no deal, she was after the prestige of becoming a quarter millionaire. She was a confetti hound and she played the game the way she wanted to play it. She wasn't after the extra £110,000, she was after the title of "Quarter Millionaire.". And for that, I say kudos to her.


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 6:41 pm    Author: DanS    Post subject: Re: Kerry Anne No Deal £140k...
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axxeman wrote:
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Neither.

It wasn't stupid because she was prepared to go away with the minimum amount to chase her ambitions, which I personally find commendable. The gamble didn't pay off, but she took it on the chin and didn't look to regret it, so it can't really be regarded as stupid because nobody's written a law where you have to deal if the offer is statistically brilliant. The decision though was the right one for her.

It wasn't greedy because she wasn't after the money with that no deal, she was after the prestige of becoming a quarter millionaire. She was a confetti hound and she played the game the way she wanted to play it. She wasn't after the extra £110,000, she was after the title of "Quarter Millionaire.". And for that, I say kudos to her.


But surely the point is that you gamble when the odds are with you and not when they are against you? You offer me 1.1 on heads and tails and I am playing you forever. Offer me 0.9 and I walk away. Simples.


And that is your outlook on that specific situation. You appear to be the kind of person who would make a decision based on statistics, and that is absolutely fine. Others though prefer to look at other elements to help influence a decision and ignore statistics, because they're gamblers, and statistics are near meaningless to them. And that's fine too. The only time I feel it ain't fine is if the player can't handle the situation going wrong. Kerry-Anne handled the disappoint very well. Nothing wrong with going against the odds IMO.


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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:11 pm    Author: Simon F    Post subject: Re: Kerry Anne No Deal £140k...
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...stupid or greedy? Noel said that the Banker was not allowed to offer above the average according to the game rules, .


The banker can offer what he wants - even above the average (it's happened a few times in the show's history)

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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:47 am    Author: cfd    Post subject: Re: Kerry Anne No Deal £140k...

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...stupid or greedy? I am torn between them.


Both.

And lots of other negative words too.


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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:46 pm    Author: killersbee    Post subject: Re: Kerry Anne No Deal £140k...
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She had the bravery of Corrine, but lacked the swap idea of Suzanne...

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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:43 pm    Author: DanS    Post subject: Re: Kerry Anne No Deal £140k...
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axxeman wrote:
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And that is your outlook on that specific situation. You appear to be the kind of person who would make a decision based on statistics, and that is absolutely fine. Others though prefer to look at other elements to help influence a decision and ignore statistics, because they're gamblers, and statistics are near meaningless to them. And that's fine too. The only time I feel it ain't fine is if the player can't handle the situation going wrong. Kerry-Anne handled the disappoint very well. Nothing wrong with going against the odds IMO.
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Erm...what?

@Regarding swap: Pretty sure I didn't imagine it but it wasn't caught on commentary, I'm sure she said something about box 17 that was on the table. It meant something or something like that.


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DanS

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:03 pm    Author: DanS    Post subject: Re: Kerry Anne No Deal £140k...
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As I say, Kerry-Anne had her priorities, with number 1 priority to be claiming the prestige that comes with "quarter millionaire" (I personally don't see anything wrong with that) and her second priority was then to get enough money to move closer to where her husband works. But to attain that first goal, she had no choice but to take part in a gigantic gamble, but she looked prepared to accept the worst possible outcome.

Did she have her priorities in the right order? If she can live with that fact she won't be as close to her husband, then Kerry-Anne is the only one who can answer that, and we can't call her stupid because of it. A post-game interview with Kerry-Anne would have been quite nice.

@Regarding swap: Mother's birthday. She had a "good" feeling about Zoleika. Both good reasons to believe in a specific box if your superstitious. The £250k could have been in either, and surely it'd be worse if she had swapped it away?


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alexandercbrown

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 11:14 pm    Author: alexandercbrown    Post subject: Re: Kerry Anne No Deal £140k...

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I'm leaning more towards 'stupid' (although I'm not sure it can be called that) but I think 'greedy' can only be attributed to arrogant players (if at all).

Did seem a bit different from Corinne's game in that the no deal seemed to lack novelty value even if it was exciting so it was a strange/questionable decision in her position.


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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 10:59 am    Author: Richbrown    Post subject: Re: Kerry Anne No Deal £140k...
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The fact that she didn't have a back-up, the huge drop down to £10,000 made her out to be a bit of an idiot. But then if she had her mind absolutely set on winning the £250,000 then you can't blame her.

I think it shows that these 'dreams' and 'feelings' aren't enough to go off when it comes down to it and you have to use common sense too.


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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 11:59 pm    Author: "The Banker"    Post subject: Re: Kerry Anne No Deal £140k...

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axxeman wrote:
Noel said that the Banker was not allowed to offer above the average according to the game rules


Game rules? What game rules?! They make up the rules as they go along! The Banker can offer whatever he likes.

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Most times the Banker offers HALF of the box average and sometimes less than that - like he did with the autistic lad Rob. He pitched the offers at a miserly level for him and yet, somehow, this girl gets huge offers from the get-go.


I see your point and I agree to some extent, but the Banker doesn't just play the board, he plays the player too. Rob said at the start of his game that he didn’t think he was going to win the £250,000. This gave the Banker the impression that he wasn’t a gambler and could probably get him out of the chair at a moderate sum. Whereas Kerry-Anne came across as a gambler and meant business straight away hence the huge offers to stop her going all the way. Also Kerry had a slightly better board than Rob IIRC.

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And the weirdest thing was if she had such a strong feeling about the girl she left until the end box, why oh why didn't she swap?


Maybe she didn't want to swap in case she'd swap the £250,000 away, which in my opinion would be worse that what actually happened.

In my opinion I don’t think she was stupid or greedy.

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