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rico7

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:10 am    Author: rico7    Post subject: Accepting the first offer
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The idea of someone accepting the banker's offer suggests a really boring show, but what if someone did that, then in the proveout during the rest of the show they showed that that was the best thing they could have done. Kai Mike and Max for example all had better first offers than any other offers in the game. There would still be suspense to see whether they have squandered thousands of pounds or beat the banker. People need bravery to go all the way to the final box, but what about dealing at the first offer? Who will be the first and would Endemol even allow it?


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Will

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 1:40 am    Author: Will    Post subject:
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I don't see anyway Endemol could stop it because of the nature of the game. The contestant must be in charge of when and if they decide to deal.

I think it's always unlikely to occur in any one game, a contestant would have to have an excellent opening offer to deal, i.e. removing 4 blues and a low red (or better) and in that scenario I imagine most contestants would continue to play the game. That said, I don't think it's unconceivable that someone would go after the first call.

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daniel4389

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 8:17 am    Author: daniel4389    Post subject:

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I think it could also happen if someone had a disastrous Irene/Alan-style opening round, yet the banker made a relatively generous offer to try and tempt them. But as I said elsewhere, I wouldn't want to have taken the opening offer even if it did turn out to be my highest one - for me the experience of the show would be as important as the money, and it really would make for a pretty boring show.

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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 6:42 pm    Author: jamtart25    Post subject:

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I always said if I ever went on the show, I'd be tempted to deal on the first offer just to be controversial. I'd probably get "booed" from the studio. Seriously though I don't think anyone would "Deal" unless they perhaps took the top 5 out and panicked. The ironic thing is that quite a few contestants had the biggest offer on the first round then their game deteriorated from then on.

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daniel4389

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 6:51 pm    Author: daniel4389    Post subject:

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Also, it's pretty unlikely that someone would take the first offer and have that turn out to be the highest, as the banker's offers are almost always higher post-deal. For example, if Max had dealt earlier on Saturday, I doubt the offer with five boxes left would have been as low as £7,700. So even for the contestants who "should" have dealt at the first offer, if they had, they'd probably have left thinking that they shouldn't have.

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hevsy

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 8:25 am    Author: hevsy    Post subject:

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Yeah, for some of the worst games, the first offer has often been the biggest offer of the game. But I admit it would be a pretty boring show if someone did take the first offer. I can't really see anyone doing that tho at the moment, as the emphasis seems to be on just playing the game and enjoying the experience.

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KP

PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 11:10 pm    Author: KP    Post subject:
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Nobody's going to take the first offer for ages if ever, but someone's going to take the second offer sooner or later. It will be someone who has a good start, gets a nice offer and decides their job is done, and it will be one not swayed by the noise of the Bristol Uni crowd, as Dot was.


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Power5

PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2006 11:16 pm    Author: Power5    Post subject:
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Possible spoiler but quite likely now it was a fake (highlight if you want to read anyway):

On 25th March someone posted on Digital Spy that "someone deals at the first offer soon". Of course we still haven't seen this happen on screen, and it certainly wasn't "soon" as they said. But I suppose it's possible it could have been recently recorded at the time it was posted. We know Tan's game shown last week was filmed on 17th March, so if there's any truth in this we will see it very soon.

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Aaron Brock

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 7:13 am    Author: Aaron Brock    Post subject:

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it would be funny, and interestiong how much of a good deal he has done

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Ciara

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 2:14 pm    Author: Ciara    Post subject:
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I've always wondered what kind of scenario someone would have to be in to take the first offer, other than doing it for the sheer hell of it and making a name for themselves. Perhaps if someone desperately needed a certain amount of money and announced at the beginning of the show if they got that kind of offer they'd take it and were offered it straight away? You'd have to be quite disciplined not take any risks. I suppose it depends how much they actually need the money and how they could prevent themselves from being too greedy.

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golden_touch19

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 2:18 pm    Author: golden_touch19    Post subject:

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I think the reason why the banker's first offers recently have sometimes been the highest of the game is that he knows no-one's going to deal then so it doesn't really matter how generous they are (within reason, obviously).


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rico7

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:07 pm    Author: rico7    Post subject:
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golden_touch19 wrote:
I think the reason why the banker's first offers recently have sometimes been the highest of the game is that he knows no-one's going to deal then so it doesn't really matter how generous they are (within reason, obviously).
If the banker does things based upon assumptions, then it's time to call his bluff by either going to the very end when he thinks you're going to deal, or dealing at the start when he thinks you won't. How much would the opening offer have to be to walk?


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golden_touch19

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:11 pm    Author: golden_touch19    Post subject:

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rico7 wrote:
golden_touch19 wrote:
I think the reason why the banker's first offers recently have sometimes been the highest of the game is that he knows no-one's going to deal then so it doesn't really matter how generous they are (within reason, obviously).
If the banker does things based upon assumptions, then it's time to call his bluff by either going to the very end when he thinks you're going to deal, or dealing at the start when he thinks you won't. How much would the opening offer have to be to walk?


i don't know - i don't think it would be about how high it was, i think it would be about how inappropriately high it was with reference to the board. if the offer were really high, chances are it would be because the board was really good - so you'd go on...


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rico7

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:13 pm    Author: rico7    Post subject:
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Even if I'd taken out 5 blues, if the banker offered £40,000 as the opening offer that would be very tempting to say the least! :D


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**Kay**

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:17 pm    Author: **Kay**    Post subject:
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rico7 wrote:
Even if I'd taken out 5 blues, if the banker offered £40,000 as the opening offer that would be very tempting to say the least! :D


yeah that would be temptin for sure - after all how many times have we seen a strong bord just fall apart in one round - so it could be the best move ..... then again u could have the 250k - god choices choices ..... i cant cope!!!! lol :D

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daniel4389

PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:37 pm    Author: daniel4389    Post subject:

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rico7 wrote:
Even if I'd taken out 5 blues, if the banker offered £40,000 as the opening offer that would be very tempting to say the least! :D


I doubt that would happen, though - that would be above the mean! Aaron's opening offer after taking out five blues was £15,000, which, although a lot of money, wouldn't really will tempt me in that situation.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:23 pm    Author: Power5    Post subject:
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Well I guess technically Suzanne today became the first player to accept the banker's first offer!

If this was recorded before 25th March then maybe that "spoiler" had some truth in it, though not in the way that everyone thought!

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Power5

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:23 pm    Author: Power5    Post subject:
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Or maybe not then - Suzanne's game is believed to have been recorded on 3rd April.

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