Is the £250k being in the contestant's box when they play their game a good thing or not? I'm actually tempted to say it's not a good thing in a way... because whilst it can often guarantee higher offers, a targetist (or a downright cautious player like Beryl) could deal a very low offer with it on the table, and then suffer a long and horrible proveout. I think the big wins in the majority of games have come when the £250k hasn't been on the table.

Good for the player if they're a targetist, absolutely *beep* for the forum.

It's good in that a player will not be able to have a complete disaster with it at the table, unless they swap it away for a blue or small red, whihc I really can't see ever happening (not at 2-box for sure).

Even if they deal with 250k and 7 blues at 8-box, only players like 1k Michael or Beryl will most likely deal for anything in 4-figures.

For the sanity of everyone on the forum, I hope it isn't on the table tomorrow!

I'll just add that I'm not saying it's bad for the forum because the contestant deals, it's bad because of the whining at the player dealing and consequently "blowing" the £250,000 that follows!

Well depends on how they value the 'potential money' available in the game of DOND and what they want out of the game and their own disappointment if they deal. if the are a targetist they might still deal at 30K and be happy conversley the might have 'regrets'. Perhaps only a Noel guilttrip is bad as well.

It coming to the table twice in a row might be good because more gambling might be encouraged.

Statistically the 250K is usually sold for 20-30k and the avergae win with it is about 46.5K.

but other people do have a good point that there can be huge wins without the 250K on the table, Rodney, Graeme etc - only Claudine and Germaine largely benefitted from it.

Targetist, or a Wakeyist, good either way if you use it in your favour. Don't really give a *beep* about what people say on the forum.

It is good if the 250K is on the table providing that there is insurance
of high reds that remains until the final stages. Unless you have people with
gambling tendencies then it is not always a good thing. Many contestants say that they won't deal while the 250K is in play, but the reality is usually very different.

Good, if you don't give a monkey's about what Noel et al will tell you assuming you sell it.

Bad, if you're an emotional type.

Would have loved Jeannie and Ingerlise to swap games - Jeannie would have put Noel in his place after the £250k reveal (I've no idea if she'd have turned down the £15k offer or indeed either of the next two, but I'd predict she'd have won £30k) and Ingerlise would surely have Dealt £9,000 for a feel-good OPW!

How the *hell* can it be good for the player if they are a targetist? It means they are going to deal and are always going to make a loss on the box by doing so... agonising losses if they deal below the likes of 50k!

It's good for them because they can win their target!

Maybe so but I would rather not win my target by blowing massive value boxes...

(BTW I wouldn't have a target but I was being general)

Possibly, but I don't think many targetists would mind as long as they have the money they aimed for won.

I think having the £250k is bad for the player. It encourages higher offers, so players are likely to deal early and get horrible proveouts. If I was playing, I'd be really gutted if I had it (or it was in my favourite box) and I didn't go for it.

Never really thought about this actually.

Whilst it should be good for the player, if they end up dealing early on with a modest sum of say £30,000 then no matter what happens, by the time they get to 2-box they are always going to get a massive offer and be told they've done a bad deal, which I guess they have.

Of course if you get a gambler with the £250k in their box and they have a strong game where they will take bigger risks, then depending what their back-up is at 2-box and the Banker's offer we may then see our second QM winner. Unless of course they swap it away.

Another loss of £216,000 made on the £250,000 box today... the banker must be a millionaire from Saturday's and this week's games alone...

Nicola didn't seem too upset about it though, which is good.

She would have swapped, or so she said. It's much easier to say that you would swap on a 250k/blue finish before you actually get there... I don't think she would have to be honest if she got to opening the box.

However when she said deal she had box 11 infront of her which means she actually sold that box, hence the £216,000 loss which is a lifechanging amount x3 for me...

It was a 44k win not any sort of loss. Incidentally 250 minus 44 is 206.

That's a very snobbish/greedy reason why you'd deal.