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h2005

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:30 pm    Author: h2005    Post subject: Contestants who had trainwrecks...
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Some contestants turn down fairly high sums of money and they can be labelled as "gamblers". Some people deal early or cautiously, and it could be said they are "cautious".

But what about the contestants who never had a chance because of bad luck? I've often wondered what certain contestants would have done had they had the chance to play the game with better luck.

Looking at the lowest DOND wins list at http://www.dond.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5928 , there are quite a few who stand out where I wonder what they would have done if they had better luck.

Ones in particular are 1p Trevor, 1p Giorgio, 1p Sharron, 2p Igor, 10p Steve, 10p Pete, 10p Lee, 52p Irene, £1 Raj, £5 Manuel, £5 Siobhan, £10 Craig, £20 Geordie, £39 Robin, £49 Roy, £100 James, £100 Gillian, £250 Philomena, £250 Juliah, £500 David, £500 Jean and £750 Ken. These ones are all ones that stand out for me where the player never really had many decisions to make due to bad luck. I'm sure there are others that could be mentioned, and also some where the player has won a low red in similar circumstances. Of course some of these wins, e.g. Irene and Geordie, are due to nasty banker behaviour more than a bad board!

I think this group of people can be called the "Unknowns" in terms of being cautious / gambling. I'd imagine Trevor may have been a bit of a gambler in order to get the money he wanted to see his relatives in Australia. I think Geordie probably would have been quite cautious; the same for Robin - he probably would've dealt at a sensible time what with his knowledge of stats and everything. Not sure about the others...

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Tom

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:34 pm    Author: Tom    Post subject:

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Interesting points there H.

It would have been nice to see how they would fit in, but unfortunately their games just didnt give them a chance to.


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Big-Davey

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:35 pm    Author: Big-Davey    Post subject:
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I've always wondered what would have happened with Trevor especially, if he decided not to open Marilyn's box and be left with a 1p/£250,000 finish.

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alexandercbrown

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:37 pm    Author: alexandercbrown    Post subject:

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There's ones like Vicky. that's a grey area though but i thought the 10K was lowish.


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Big-Davey

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:52 pm    Author: Big-Davey    Post subject:
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Many would think though that £10,000 would have got a few people out, it was a decent offer but definitely could have been higher.

My comments on other games H mentioned:

Giorgio: He seemed like a cautious player who might possibly have played to the end anyway.

Sharron: She would have dealt at a sensible sum of money, she had dreams and would have loved to make them become reality.

Igor: Tough one to call - because of some of his decisions, unless it was due to the editing, he came across to me as a gambler.

Steve: He wanted to win a decent amount, he'd have dealt at a good offer had the money have been kept in play longer.

Pete: Again, especially with him being a uni student, I would have expected him to deal at a sensible offer. Like many others, I was very disappointed to see him win so little.

Irene: No doubt, she was looking for enough money to do some good things with it. A very upsetting game.

Raj: His rise to stardom would have been more publicly recognised if he wasn't remembered for winning just £1 - but he would definitely have been a cautious dealer if there was more money saved in the game til later.

Manuel: He would have still provided an entertaining game regardless of the end result. I would imagine to have dealt at the first sign of sensible money though.

Siobhan: Anything £20,000 would have probably gotten her out of the chair, especially with a wedding planned.

Craig: He seemed to be one of those players who might have taken big risks depending on how well the game was going for him.

Geordie: He was wanting to play the game so say he brought a big sum of money to the table with him, he would have won it.

Robin: He would have analyzed a good offer for a good board, if he had it. He would have won good money if the boxes weren't so horrible to him.

Roy: Again, he would have saw a good offer and probably would have taken it. He only dealt when he did so he wouldn't win 1p.

James: He probably would have dealt for anything £15,000 or higher - even if it was because it was highest amount left for the last part of the game, it was the £15,000 he seemed to be drawn towards more than the other reasonable amounts.

Gillian: I would have imagined her to have dealt with more money still available to her, but she'd have won enough to keep her happy regardless of what would turn out to be in her box.

Philomena: Totally at a blank with this one - she probably would have ended up being a sensible Dealer.

Juliah: She wouldn't have played to the end if the boxes were going in her favour.

David: David would have taken some risks, I reckon, but wouldn't have played to the end I don't think.

Jean: Hard to guess, she might have played into the latter stages of the game but probably would have dealt before the end.

Ken: He seemed like a confident person on the wings, he might have made a couple of big gambles.

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alexandercbrown

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:01 pm    Author: alexandercbrown    Post subject:

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Not sure about craig. His 15K and 7.5K offers were reasonable get outs not that I begrudge him for no dealing.
You've got it spot it on with the majority though.

Jean might well have dealt an offer in the 20s but like a lot of people didn't come for 4 figs.


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alexandercbrown

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:06 pm    Author: alexandercbrown    Post subject:

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I don't know if maggie should be on here as well. the banker made a real joke offer at 8 box with the top 2 in play.


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Billy

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:11 pm    Author: Billy    Post subject:
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Everyone remembers games like Morris who were just simply totally there to win the £250,000, but I'm sure there have been many, many others who took that walk of wealth thinking "Right, I'm going to turn down every offer and win huge money!" only for all the big reds to go early on. I used to have Trevor down as a definite Dealer had he left Marilyn to the end, but I remember Lisa saying that he said he'd have said No Deal and tried for the £250k.

Generally if a player has a specific target or dream in mind, I think they'd have taken an offer big enough. For those who just came to play the game, though, they'd have gone right to the end and opened their box whether it be high or low.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:34 pm    Author: KP    Post subject:
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I suspect most of them would have either been targetists or Wakeyists. Pretty much by definition, that seems to be what most people are.

Geordie is the obvious exception of course - I reckon it might not have needed much more at eight-box to take him out in that high-volatility situation, but on a stable £100k-high board like today's he'd have needed much more generosity.

And, you know, I think I'd have got the £14,999 OPW in Roy's game... I reckon he'd have been a gambler. And what's Craig doing here? He turned down £15,000 on practically Geordie's final eight but with £10k and £20k instead of £5k and £15k, I'd have taken that in a flash! He was DEFINITELY a big gambler!

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h2005

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:14 pm    Author: h2005    Post subject:
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KP wrote:
And what's Craig doing here? He turned down £15,000 on practically Geordie's final eight but with £10k and £20k instead of £5k and £15k, I'd have taken that in a flash! He was DEFINITELY a big gambler!


Yes, good point. :oops: Craig shouldn't really be here... I forgot that he did turn down some good money to get to that £10... although I think the three swap offers at the start stick in my mind!! :evil:

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Michael DeVere

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:52 am    Author: Michael DeVere    Post subject:

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It's a shame that we don't get to see the potential of some player's due to the fact of a bad board and how they would of dealt with the bigger offers, but alas sometimes a player just has no chance of ever getting to the really meaningful money no matter how they play.


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cocky bill

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:25 am    Author: cocky bill    Post subject:

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As Billy has said i was determined to play the game to the end no matter what the -anker offered.Was very lucky to come away with 3 thousand.Many more not so fortunate.


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