i think hes biased to dealing now

todays game he totally didnt encourage gambling and shouted yes when danilele dealt

is it too much to ask for him to be neutral

Pro gambler Noel is far cooler

and then the contestant deals his facial expressions and tone of voice when he speaks to the banker and rubs the prove out offers in is ocsar material.

" :O kelsie Kelsie he got you cheap"

" wha wha what would it have been?"

" the offer to you now " kelsie " I don't want to hear thi.. noel moves in " ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND POUNDS"

" YOU BLEW IT BIG TIME"

GOLD!!!

I think today's Noel wasnt too bad. Fair enough he did go back to April with some of the things he said but there were some pretty pro dealing things as well! I think he balanced it well.

Everybody is biased to dealing. Contestants, audience, crew, this forum etc and Noel is just pandering to the lowest common denominator.

there is at least some no delaing opinion floating around. Just not solid wakeyism. I think I'd have no dealt 45K today.

I think Noel is starting to get the balance right now (although he still has streaks of Wakeyism in him, probably thanks to Endemol encouraging it). Back in March / April, he was ridiculously pro-gambling and it undoubtedly encouraged the banker to pop in some ludicrously inflated proveout offers (see Steven's game).

Interestingly, the games recently were recorded only a few weeks after the bad reaction on this forum to his Wakeyism (look back at such threads as "Noel's attitude" from the spring)... and nowadays, he seems to have more of a balance - for example in Pete's game, he commented how he'd loved to have had that money when he was 19, and he reminded "Large Badger" James that £1,000 (I think) is a nice sum of money.

Strangely today, he did seem pleased when Danielle dealt, but he did start yelling to the audience "Why are you clapping" and mentioned a "disaster" twice. I still don't think he's fully neutral like he was back in 2005 / early 2006. Back then he wouldn't have really reacted much and just stated the facts. Nowadays, he tends to praise dealing and then criticise it at the same time. I suppose that's about as neutral as we're going to get... still, whatever, I'd rather the current Noel to the spring Noel!

Yeah I agree H, Noel is pretty much no too bad now but the still he has a few flaws.
It was interesting that he was advising caution at poor offers
e.g. pete's 1.5K.
The main problem is him wrecking the proveout. Rather than just shutting up he ruins the atmosphere by yelling at the audience and the player.
He should just leave it to the natural tension.
I don't see the problem with a bit of applause at the first box even if it's a low number.

I think Noel is perfect now *awaits torrents of abuse*

With Danielle he weighed up both arguments for dealing and no dealing - He allowed Danielle's mum to put her point across about being cautious, and then then he chipped in with the should you now be independant of mother, and not hold onto to her apron strings anymore....

The poor bloke is never going to win with any approach he takes in the show, as everyone has their own opinion of how he should react/influence people.

It is interesting that H picked up on the dates that there was a LOT of discussion on the site about Noel's reaction to the contestant's desicions, and how it was putting off a lot of people, and now he seems to have altered and tweaked his reactions.

At the end of the day Noel is an entertainer, and he does describe the show as an entertainment drama, which he does his best to deliver. If he remained calm and didn't do some of his OTT performances we wouldn't have anything to moan about

Noel does also seem to care about the younger contestant's futures, and how a nice sum of money can help set them up in life, as was noticed by quite a few in Danielle's game where he let out a yelp of "YES" when she said DEAL. He knew that this sum of money would really help set Danielle up in her business, and provide a great background to hopefully future success. Whereas if she went on, there was the risk of losing it all and not giving her the chance to give her life a great boost.

Carry on Noel, you are doing a fantastic job and provide us with hours of entertainment every week (If you are reading this, any donations are greatfully received )

i agree with pretty much with that post. Noel just gets a bit silly during proveout sometimes. I think most viewers know full well what's supposed to happen in the proveout.

From what I've heard lately, he's improved dramatically enough for me to consider watching the show again. He still deviates from neutrality, but does so in both directions now, which plays on players' uncertainty in the correct way.

I think his main problem is that he never points out when an earlier Deal was the way to an OPW (as in Stuart's game), consistently points out when a later Deal (or none at all) was the way to an OPW, and tends to be much less sympathetic to this latter group than to those who 'played the game and paid the price'. At the point of decision-making he sounds a lot less bad.

I'm starting to conclude that his guilt-tripping is Endemol-influenced, and his hosting on 10-Year-Old (not an Endemol production, but a show with a risk/reward element) could well be a good barometer for where his true intentions lie.

But cmon you had to admit you laughed in Donnas (2) and Kelsies game when they delt and screwed up and Noel was itching to hear the prove out offer to rub it in .

As iv'e quoted above how he speaks its hillarious, it also makes the player feel like a worm but thats ok they did a foolish thing and they knew it.

That's just *beep* spiteful. What a strange guy who wants to watch people *ahem* lose money.

THEY DONT LOSE ANYTHING.

Who gives a diddly *beep* if they miss out on £250,000. It's not exactly their fault. Take Melanie and Danielle's game. Their parents dominated their decisions. That's defeating the object of the game.

But anyway. If you're going to call people to not win something they never had, you need to really get your act together.

If you fail to accept that a huge part of the appeal of the show is a significant number of viewers enjoying the failure of contestants they didn't take a shine to, then I'm afraid it's you who needs to get your act together.

I like it best when they win. But when they fall apart, well, sometimes it's painful but sometimes it's hilarious. Never heard of schadenfreude?

AARON I hope your not calling me spiteful?

I do not watch or want them to lose money I just said you have to laugh AT NOEL and how he goes off at them and speaks and seems to enjoy rubbing it in and is seemingly itching to get the call and tell them the guilt offer lol.

Erm... what else am I meant to be trying to say?



No you don't thats just *beep* tight.

Suit yourself but I only enjoy watching people lose or squander big money when I do not like them.

I have felt sorry for a few people but people like Kelsie and Donna I enjoyed every moment but clearly not as much as Noel .

Human nature of course can only judge them from what we see on tv really and some im not so struck of when they play and kinda wanna see them fall flat on their face.

Donna 2 I REALLY disliked so I was so happy she crumbled 21K too much she got theres people in famine who need help in the world and shes CRYING OVER 21K that made me so angry so I was glad she lost big time.

Kelsie was so gullable note how eager the banker was to get her to say deal ? he kept desperatly ringing back and ringing back thet would tell me the big one is here. I didn't mind her personally untill she started calling the banker a nice man and was taken in.

Noels lines were priceless.

I feel sorry for most people who have a bad game but theres a few players I did not care.

Thats Human nature anyone who says they want EVERYONE who plays to do well is lying because no one likes seeing someone arrogant or greedy prevail.

Yeah.

He didn't keep "phoning back and phoning back" and the banker, for the last time, doesn't know what is in the boxes so that shouldn't have told you anything.

well he shouldn't or its not much of a game

But I would wonder why he kept ringing back desperatly wanting to talk and then up the offer hmmmmm.