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Where will Deal or No Deal be transmitted in 2008?
Poll ended at Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:31 pm
Channel 4 77%  77%  [ 24 ]
ITV 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
Neither, Deal or No Deal will end on 31st December 2007 19%  19%  [ 6 ]
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travis P

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:31 pm    Author: travis P    Post subject: Deal or No Deal in 2008 - Channel 4 or ITV?

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With Channel 4's decision to remove all phone in compeitions, except from DoND (up to November at least). While Endemol are currently discussing with Channel 4 regarding this matter. What do you think where the show be transmitted in 2008.

Some factors to consider regarding the possible move.

-The current contact will end on 31st December 2007.
-Two-thirds through the first series (66 shows), Channel 4 announced the show would be comissioned for another 230 shows. In March, the contract was extened to December 2007. However, with four months left, nothing has been announced.
-Adam McDonald, former Channel 4 Daytime Comissioner, who comissioned DoND and persuaded Noel Edmonds to present is now ITV's Daytime Comissioner.
-It was reported back in Christmas 2006, ITV were luring Noel and the show with a multimillion deal, yet nothing developed.
-Deal or No Deal is currently filmed in an Endemol owed studio, if the shows moves to ITV. It's likely the show's format and studio will remain in Paintworks, Bristol, thus pleasing Noel as he currently lives in North Devon. Although, we may see the show extend to an hour.
-ITV will continue to use phone in competitions.
-It has proved that shows moving to other channels have little effect. When Paul O'Grady signed for ITV in 2000, he took Blankety Blank with him, becoming "Lily Savages Blankety Blank". While the set and format was the same. Same applies to O'Grady's move to Channel 4 last year, slight change to the title, same set.
-Golden Balls, another Endemol show is currently airing in the 5pm slot. A deal could see Endemol own the slot for an entire year. Having DoND run for 44 weeks and have Golden Balls air in the summer for 8 weeks.


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Billy

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:50 pm    Author: Billy    Post subject:
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It'll remain on Channel 4, and it'll still be on Channel 4 by the end of this decade.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:52 pm    Author: cookie_monster    Post subject:
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Channel 4.

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KP

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:47 pm    Author: KP    Post subject:
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ITV. They'll still think they can dominate afternoon TV with this show, and given the recent decline in ratings they'll almost certainly get it cheaper than they would have done in 2006.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:09 am    Author: "The Banker"    Post subject:

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Like Billy said, it will and has to stay on Channel 4.

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Channel 4- I was sure that they'd already decided to extend the contract to 2009 and, if not, were in serious talks about doing so.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:54 am    Author: david3383    Post subject:

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Channel 4 - DoND is FAR too good for ITV!

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It started on Channel 4, it must stay on channel 4 :-)

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 3:51 pm    Author: alexandercbrown    Post subject:

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It should stay on C4 really. Maybe the ratings are falling but as long as there are good characters, a reasonable number of decent games, a non OTT Noel and gimmicks being kept to a minimum then there is still potential for a good show there and retaining some viewers.


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Sam

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:52 pm    Author: Sam    Post subject:

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I'm leaning towards channel 4 but to be honest, I'm not that bothered just so long as it doesn't go completely.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:31 pm    Author: Tom    Post subject:

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Channel 4

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Jimmy

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:47 pm    Author: Jimmy    Post subject:
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I don't really think there is any question about it, Channel 4 will and should retain the show and its presenter. It certainly wouldn't be the same on ITV.


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CrazyChair

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:12 am    Author: CrazyChair    Post subject:

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I hope it stays on Channel 4. ITV would do something stupid with it, like make it similar to the American version and have models opening the boxes rather than contestants. I'm sure I read somewhere that ITV declined DOND. I bet the person who made that decision has been fired! I don't think DOND will finish in December 2007, I think it'll finish on October 2008 (the 3rd anniversary) or December 2007.


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KP

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:11 am    Author: KP    Post subject:
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alexandercbrown wrote:
It should stay on C4 really. Maybe the ratings are falling but as long as there are good characters, a reasonable number of decent games, a non OTT Noel and gimmicks being kept to a minimum then there is still potential for a good show there and retaining some viewers.


The third of these isn't going to happen. Second is largely down to fate, though depending upon your definition of 'decent game' the numbers may be affected in either direction by the extent to which the third is met. The fourth of these is possible, but I sense Channel 4 will have planned plenty of gimmicks for season 3 given that they'd have been recorded at a time when (I think) the ratings were at a low ebb, and their thoughts would have been that we wanted more twists. First one comes down to the contestant coordinators/selectors, and I'd imagine that's in Endemol's hands and does not relate to the broadcaster.

I don't doubt ITV would make a version with at least some similarity to the US show. If it's just graphical similarities I'll have no complaints (unless they keep the HORRIBLE FLASHING NEON PILLARS...). If the game's exactly the same, I'll be annoyed at the replacement of future contestants with Identically Dressed Anorexic Chicks, but not annoyed at the relative consistency of the bank offers and the 6-5-4-3-2-1-1-1-1 format.

...and if they made it a 90-minute show on one weeknight per week to fill the 9pm-10:30pm gap before the news (or 8pm-9:30pm, with an hour-long show following) complete with a big quiz to select the player in Miljoenenjacht style, it'll be one of the best things ever :)

...which almost certainly means it won't happen :p

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:30 am    Author: daniel123    Post subject:
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CHANNEL 4.

Personally i think this whole phone in debate is a load of *beep*, and has been made up on the spot to get some attention, and as much of a fan as i am, it is a fact that anything over 500 shows is too much. That is DoND overkill.
Plus, i hear that a Mr. Adam MacDonald, who works for ITV, pursuaded noel to go on DoND. So surely, he's the one to blame for every single thing that has ever happened on DoND, because every single thing that makes me hate it now, has something to do with Noel. So the sooner noel retires, the better.

Anyway, if i am totally wrong, and i hope i am, it bloody well better stay on C4.
[although i wont be watching it in 2008, 31/12/07 will be my last show, i've decided - i'll keep up with kes instead.]

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I can actually see DoND on ITV, and it being a good show tbh. An hour timeslot and a set change would do the show good. I think DoND would look better if it was a bit more modern. I personally like the '90s cord phones :lol:

ITV would give DoND a better look, a bigger audience, and of course, a higher rating. I've never seen Deal or No Deal been advertised on Channel 4 since last June. ITV would be advertising it quite a lot, and ITV would raise the jackpot most surely. I could possibly see the show ending up a lot like KP's 2008 Fantasy series strangely enough, but just not Patrick Kielty being host...

I personally would DoND to go to ITV, as ITV is a more popular channel, and it could be ranking around 6 million viewers, and thats probably just a 5pm hour timeslot. I would like to see DoND on ITV, its too good for Channel 4...

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A. Too good for channel 4? Therefore WAY too good for ITV

B. Under their current problems, ITV couldn't afford to raise the jackpot

C. DonD works because of the current format, layout and design. The amounts of viewers are dropping but not too much.

D. Channel 4 wouldn't sell it to ITV.

E. Channel 4 advertised the return of DonD in August and everyone thought that it showed Ottis winning £250,000 :shock: (how wrong were they?) Therefore, I believe we will see more adverts soon

F. If Channel 4 didn't think DonD was as successful anymore they wouldn't bother showing classics during the break.


Therefore I think it will stay on Channel 4 and I think it will run for a few more years yet.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:03 pm    Author: travis P    Post subject:

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B. Under their current problems, ITV couldn't afford to raise the jackpot.

ITV Doesn't need to raise the jackpot, they can always match it.

D. Channel 4 wouldn't sell it to ITV.

It's not Channel 4's programme. Endemol owns and produces the show and format, while they agree for Channel 4 to transmit it. If Endemol aren't happy with Channel 4's actions regarding the phone in competition (in reports last week they were going to discuss this matter), they can simply close business and speak to another broadcaster. Provided other channels show interest in buying DoND. Remember, the whole point of this discussion is down to Channel 4's decision regarding LTL's. If they didn't axe them, this topic wouldn't have started.

Endemol and every other company are out to make a profit from their productions. If they decide not to continue the LTL from November, they will only rely on the BT sponsorship, advertising revenue and the merchandise. This christmas will see a second DVD and Ninty DS game being released. Am I thinking right that somebody on here stated the show was generating £300K per show for the LTL?

Over in Holland, both Postcode Lottery and Endemol produced shows (1 Vs 100 & Miljoenenjacht) have made a deal to have their shows transmit on RTL4. As Tien is closing this year, it's a fact that everything to both shows (set, host and format) will remain exactly the say for RTL4. In 2006, RTL4 also purchased Millionaire from broadcaster SBS (also produced by Endemol) with everything intact.


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B. Under their current problems, ITV couldn't afford to raise the jackpot.

ITV Doesn't need to raise the jackpot, they can always match it.


That was in response to Aaron's comment about ITV no doubt raising the jackpot. They can't afford to raise it.

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Regarding ITV funding it: the show averages about £25,000 per hour in prize money. The Price Is Right was on more than that, albeit in prizes which is a slightly different matter. Heck, In The Grid must have been on at least half that and that's on Five.

Game shows are relatively cheap in production terms. They can most certainly afford it in its current form and are probably the only channel who could afford to raise it permanently. If they can afford to keep Millionaire (which at least was on £100,000 per hour, though it's not even half that right now with arguably tougher questions) going this long, they can afford Deal. More money on the board? I'd say that can and will happen if - and only if - it goes primetime.

Endemol shows, including this very format, have migrated between channels before. Tien (then Talpa) was only introduced in 2004, I think - or was it 2005? Anyway, Miljoenenjacht and Een Tegen 100 both moved from other channels (Nederland 2, I believe) to form part of the Talpa lineup, and nothing changed. Nothing substantial anyway - the graphics on Miljoenenjacht changed at some point between the early episodes (as shown on the Bar) and 2006 when I started watching it, but that's it. There were bigger changes during the show's time on Talpa, and even they weren't drastic (the only non-cosmetic changes I can think of are a revised final quiz round and 750k replacing 7.5k on the board); I doubt RTL4 will change much either.

Our version of the format could go the same way. I'd like to see some changes, and I don't doubt ITV would make some. But I doubt they'd be drastic - and contrary to popular opinion here, I don't mind that. Keep Noel out of the decision-making process, maintain a certain level of offer stability, emphasise the wings... there've been small steps towards all three this summer, and if these turn into proper steps forward I'll be watching the show regularly again. Regardless of which button on my remote control takes me there.

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