well, i thought now would be a good time to do it, as we are approaching 100 shows...

using screwthebanker and bother's bar, i have compiled 4 charts, listing the 10 players to win the most money, the 10 players to win the least money, the 10 players to screw the banker the most (ie, sell a low value box for a high amount), and the 10 players to lose to the banker the most.

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Top 10 winners

1. Jennifer (Show 17, 18th November 2005) - £120,000
2. Brenda (Show 86, 9th February 2006) - £57,000
3. Mally (Show 22, 24th November 2005) - £54,000
4. Lee (Show 46, 22nd December 2005) - £50,000
5. Trevor (Show 23, 25th November 2005) - £47,000
6. Daz (Show 88, 11th February 2006) - £45,000
7. Anna (Show 100, 25th February 2006) - £43,000
8. Jessica (Show 75, 27th January 2006) - £41,000
9. Maurice (Show 11, 11th November 2005) - £35,000
=10. Anita (Show 3, 2nd November 2005) - £33,000
=10. Julie (Show 68, 19th January 2006) - £33,000

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Top 10 Losers

1. Nick (Show 54, 3rd January 2006) - 1p
2. Raj (Show 26, 29th November 2005) - 10p
3. Irene (Show 53, 2nd January 2006) - £5
=4. James (Show 29, 2nd December 2005) - £10
=4. John G. (Show 94, 18th February 2006) - £10
6. Geordie (Show 79, 1st February 2006) - £20
=7. Simon (Show 47, 23rd December 2005) - £250
=7. Ann (Show 71, 23rd January 2006) - 250
=9. Jayne (Show 16, 17th November 2005) - £1,000
=9. Alan (Show 64, 14th January 2006) - £1,000

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Top 10 Profiters

1. Jennifer (Show 17, 18th November 2005) -£119,250
2. Trevor (Show 23, 25th November 2005) - £46,999
3. Maurice (Show 11, 11th November 2005) - £34,999.50
4. Julie (Show 68, 19th January 2006) - £32,999.99
5. Anita (Show 3, 2nd November 2005) - £32,250
6. Max (Show 52, 30th December 2005) - £29,900
7. Benita (Show 91, 15th February 2006) - £26,999.90
8. Jason (Show 40, 15th December 2005) - £26,999.50
9. Jan (Show 15, November 16th 2005) - £24,899
10. Terry (Show 67, January 18th 2006) - £24,499.50

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Top 10 Non-Profiters

1. Natalie (Show 11, November 10th 2005) - lost £228,000
2. Anna (Show 100, February 25th 2006) - lost £207,000
3. Daz (Show 88, 11th February 2006) - lost £205,000
4. Mally (Show 22, 24th November 2005) - lost £196,000
=5. Elaine (Show 36, 10th December 2005) - lost £88,000
=5. Charles (Show 77, 30th January 2006) - lost £88,000
7. Jo (Show 39, 14th December 2005) - lost £81,000
8. Sara (Show 33, 7th December 2005) - lost £69,000
9. Rita (Show 28, 1st December 2005) - lost £43,500
10. Lee (Show 46, 22nd December 2005) - lost £25,000

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of the 100 contestants to play so far, only 19 have dealt at a deal that was less than their box was worth (Alan, Beryl, Marie, Helen, Shell, Haleem, Liz, John, Jenni, Lee, Rita, Sara, Jo, Charles, Elaine, Mally, Anna, Daz and Natalie)

15 never accepted a deal, and simply opened their box (Nick, Raj, Irene, John G., James, Ann, Simon, Pat, Garvan, Jenna, Vanessa, Tina, Fin, Oli and Rob)

the other 67 have all made deals between £20 and £120,000, and have sold their boxes for a larger amount than what was in their box

The total of money that the players have won is:

£1,657,545.11

The total amount the banker has earned (from buying boxes) is:

£2,018,208.92 (not including Player 14's box)

meaning the banker has made profit over the players of:

£360,663.81 (not including Player 14)

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The average win of a player: £16,575.45

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Can someone please tell me why of all the sites that have stats on the show, the only gap is for "player 14" and it says "removed by request".

Presumably it was at the request of the player, but from what I can gather they came away with £4800 (with a highest offer of £28K). I suppose this could be classed as a bad deal, but why all the secrecy. It's a TV show - by going on something like this surely you agree to all the publicity. Why don't they want their details being released? It's only a bit of fun. What's wrong with putting a name up? I'm puzzled.

Nice summaries there. Allow me to offer one or two corrections...


The eighteenth name that should also be there is Beryl's.


Remove Robbie's name from that list and you're spot on.


Player 14 did indeed do a Deal in that (wide) range. As indeed did all of the people whose box amount was greater than their winnings, listed above.


I make it £1,614,545.11 -- I think you've omitted Beryl's £3100 today and Player 14's £4800.


How have you calculated this? If we're counting the original box that the player had (before any swap), then I think that the total amount the players have had in their boxes so far is £1,775,679.42


I reckon it's £161,134.31 -- The Banker has saved himself around 9.1%.


I make it £16,308.54 -- again I think you've omitted Beryl and Player 14.

Please feel free to tell me that I'm wrong!

Another statistic that might be interesting:

Top 10 'Worst' Deals (largest difference between deal value and potential winnings).

The top three of these are obviously the people who had the quarter-million in their boxes; Sara is fourth with £144,000 (dealt at £31,000, peak offer £175,000); Lee would also move up that list with £115,000 (dealt at £50,000, peak offer £160,000) and Maurice, who appears on the Top Profiters list, might sneak into this one too with £70,000 (dealt at £35,000, peak offer £105,000).

After 99 programmes:

1. Natalie (Show 10, 10 November 2005), missed £228,000
2. Daz (Show 88, 11 February 2006), missed £205,000
3. Mally (Show 22, 24 November 2005), missed £196,000
4. Sara (Show 33, 7 December 2005), missed £144,000
5. Lee (Show 46, 22 December 2005), missed £110,000
6= Elaine (Show 36, 10 December 2005), missed £88,000
6= Charles (Show 77, 30 January 2006), missed £88,000
8. Jo (Show 39, 14 December 2005), missed £81,000
9. Max (Show 52, 30 December 2005), missed £80,000
10. Maurice (Show 11, 11 November 2005), missed £70,000

As you can see, Maurice does sneak into the top ten at the moment.

An interesting little coincidence is that many people on that list played in shows that were a multiple of 11 (Maurice -- show 11, Mally -- show 22, Sara -- show 33, Charles -- show 77, Daz -- show 88). Doesn't mean anything, like...

Another point to make is that all of the people on the above list lost out by Dealing too early. The person who so far has missed out on the most money by Dealing too late (or going all of the way) would be Fin (Show 95, 20 February 2006), at number 17 on the list. He missed £34,000.

A great set of stats there MisterAl, thanks for taking the time to compile and post them

They make very interesting reading.

Would you mind if I added them to the stats page on the main site?

If you want to wait until after today's 100th programme, I'll give you those and loads more to boot.

That would be great MisterAl, your a star

who is the person who won the highest by not dealing all the way through?

Great stats Jonny and MisterAl. Enjoyed reading them.

Sorry jonny I was reading MisterAl's additions to your original post and didn't credit you with the excellant set of stats you produced

Please forgive my oversite

thanks, nik!



don't worry :wink:

indeed...but due to the mysterious player 14 being totally removed from everywhere, i wasn't aware he won £4800, or what was in his in box...perhaps if you have some info you could pm?



No, i counted the boxes that the banker actually ended up buying, ie, in case of a swap, i would count the amount in the player's NEW box, because after all, that is the amount the banker will be getting, not the amount in the old box.



Once again...i don't have any data for player 14...but yes, Beryl would have been ommited.

Sorry, but I really don't follow that. Surely the amount in the player's NEW box is not the amount the Banker gets, but the amount the player gets?

The 'banker savings' statistic must be calculated by looking at the difference between 'total amount in players boxes' and 'total amount players took home'. And after 100 games, this is what I make those figures...

Total amount in players' (pre-swap) boxes: £2,025,679.42
Total amount players took home: £1,657,545.11
Banker savings: £368,134.31 (a saving of 18.2%)

(Total amount in players' post-swap boxes would sum to £2,018,243.93)

And it's a New Entry at number 2 for Anna in the 'worst' deal list above.


That'd be Vanessa (Show 80, 2 February 2006) who won £20,000 by taking her box.

Here's a few more stats from the first 100 shows...

BEST ROUND ONE (least total uncovered)
1. Shell (Show 9, 9 November 2005) -- removed £5, £50, 1p, £250, £1
2. Anita (Show 3, 2 November 2005) -- removed £1k, £500, 10p, £10, £250
3. Marie (Show 76, 28 January 2006) -- removed £50, £5, £1, £3k, 10p
4. Robbie (Show 62, 12 January 2006) -- removed £500, £3k, £1, £250, £1k
5. Anna (Show 100, 25 February 2006) -- removed 50p, £100, £5k, £10, £3k

WORST ROUND ONE (greatest total uncovered)
1. Audrey (Show 37, 12 December 2005) -- removed £10k, £250k, £75k, £100k, £1k
2. Irene (Show 53, 2 January 2006) -- removed £250k, £50k, £10k, £75k, £35k
3. Alan (Show 64, 14 January 2006) -- removed £35k, £250k, £50k, £75k, 1p
4. Jayne (Show 16, 17 November 2005) -- removed £100k, £5k, £250k, £1k, £1
5. Jo (Show 39, 14 December 2005) -- removed £75k, £100, £250k, 50p, £1

BEST FINAL FIVE (greatest total amount remaining)
1. Brenda (Show 86, 9 February 2006) -- £250k, £75k, £50k, £35k, £10k remaining
2. Jenni (Show 55, 4 January 2006) -- £250k, £75k, £50k, £10k, £10 remaining
3. Miguel (Show 69, 20 January 2006) -- £250k, £100k, £5k, £250, £1 remaining
4. Jennifer (Show 17, 18 November 2005) -- £250k, £100k, £750, £500, £10
5. Sara (Show 33, 7 December 2005) -- £250k, £100k, £1k, £5, 50p

Of these, Jennifer was the only player to not already have Dealed.

WORST FINAL FIVE (least total amount remaining)
1. Geordie (Show 79, 1 February 2006) -- £750, £500, £100, £5, 10p remaining
2. Nick (Show 54, 3 January 2006) -- £3k, £100, 50p, 10p, 1p remaining
3. Irene (Show 53, 2 January 2006) -- £3k, £500, £250, £50, £5 remaining
4. Alan (Show 64, 14 January 2006) -- £5k, £250, £10, £1, 10p remaining
5. Helen (Show 90, 14 February 2006) -- £5k, £3k, £750, £5, 10p remaining

Of these, only Helen had already Dealed. The others were still playing.

MOST CAUTIOUS DEAL
1. Beryl (Show 99, 24 February 2006) -- took an offer of 12.7% of the mean remaining boxes
2. Adrienne (Show 13, 14 November 2005) -- took offer of 26.3% of the mean
3. Peter (Show 87, 10 February 2006) -- took offer of 26.4% of the mean
4. Gerry (Show 72, 24 January 2006) -- took offer of 29.2% of the mean
5. Glen (Show 83, 6 February 2006) -- took offer of 31.5% of the mean

LOWEST OFFER ACCEPTED
1. Geordie (Show 79, 1 February 2006) -- accepted £20
2= Jayne (Show 16, 17 November 2005) -- accepted £1000
2= Alan (Show 64, 14 January 2006) -- accepted £1000
4. Chris (Show 89, 13 February 2006) -- accepted £1500
5. Sam (Show 24, 26 November 2005) -- accepted £2100

BRAVEST NO DEAL
1. Player 14 (Show 14, 15 November 2005) -- rejected offer of 120.6% of the mean remaining boxes
2. Irene (Show 53, 2 January 2006) -- rejected offer of 105.1% of the mean
3. Fin (Show 95, 20 January 2006) -- rejected offer of 100.0% of the mean
4. John G. (Show 94, 18 January 2006) -- rejected offer of 99.0% of the mean
5. Fin (Show 95, 20 January 2006) -- rejected offer of 92.4% of the mean

HIGHEST OFFER REJECTED
1. Jennifer (Show 17, 18 November 2005) -- rejected £52,000
2. Fin (Show 95, 20 January 2006) -- rejected £44,000
3. Jennifer (Show 17, 18 November 2005) -- rejected £33,000
4. Brenda (Show 86, 9 February 2006) -- rejected £31,000
5. Marie (Show 76, 28 January 2006) -- rejected £30,000

The largest amount of money could have been taken by Dealing at the following times:

After Round 1, 1 game
After Round 2, 2 games
After Round 3, 8 games
After Round 4, 14 games
After Round 5, 36 games
After Round 6, 23 games
Take the box, 16 games

Any more for any more?

respect!
nice one there, jonny and Mister Al.

Wow, those statistics are fascinating. Just the sort of thing a mathematician like me loves! Thanks very much jonny and MisterAl

the amount in the new box is what the player gets, but it's also what the banker 'gets' because the banker's earnings are calculated by the amounts in the boxes that he buys. when a player opens a box and wins the amount inside, the banker is essentially just buying it off them for however much it's worth, and not any more or any less.

so the amount the banker has made is simply the total of the boxes that the player ended up selling or opening. this leads to profit for the banker due to several people who have given away thousands of pounds because they have sold their box for a figure less than the box contents (which is what the box is worth to the banker).

i dont know if i explained that well, but i gave it a shot :wink:

and i'd be interested to know which players should have dealt after the first round or second round, MisterAl

...which is exactly the sum total of what was in the players' boxes, yes? (I now understand the terminology you're using. Thanks for explaining.)


Kai (Show 35, 9 December 2005) was offered a very generous £9000 after Round 1, which was never bettered. (He actually went home with £7500.)

Raj (Show 26, 29 November 2005) had an offer of £7200 after Round 2 before his luck turned horribly and he went home with 10p.

Chris (Show 89, 13 February 2006) had awful luck -- his peak offer of just £4400 appeared after Round 2. He took home £1500.

yep exactly.

and thanks - poor kai. what's ironic is that if he had dealt at the £9k then he would probably be hated for giving a boring game, but wouldve been better off!