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Joey

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 12:30 pm    Author: Joey    Post subject: Great mystery bug (Birthday discussion) split

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cfd wrote:
You'd be suprised how high the probability of something happening in a group of 22 people is.

One of my favourite facts is given a group of 23 (22 is only gonna give a % or 2 lower) people there is a 50% chance two of the people in the group will share a birthday.

Please could you explain this? I'd be very interested to see the mathematical workings out as I can't figure it out in my head!


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cfd

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 12:45 pm    Author: cfd    Post subject: Re: The great mystery bug strikes again.

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The way to think about the problem is in the number of pairs of people.

In a group of 23 there are 23/2 * 22 = 253 pairs of people. Each pair has a 1/365 (ignoring leap years) chance of sharing a birthday. When we have 253 pairs to check it becomes likely that we'll hit a match.

(This is somewhat simplified - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_problem has more detailed explanations)


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h2005

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 12:52 pm    Author: h2005    Post subject: Re: The great mystery bug strikes again.
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Actually in my class of about 20 at primary school, I shared the same birthday with another boy. Not sure what this has to do with mystery bugs, mind.

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garylq

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 3:06 pm    Author: garylq    Post subject: Re: The great mystery bug strikes again.
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That's fascinating, lets do an experiment!

Everybody who reads this thread please post your birthday, lets see how many it takes before we get a matching pair.

I will start;

September 17th

* reason for edit -spelling error

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Joey

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 4:00 pm    Author: Joey    Post subject: Re: The great mystery bug strikes again.

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14th August


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h2005

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 4:03 pm    Author: h2005    Post subject: Re: Great mystery bug (Birthday discussion) split
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cfd

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 4:08 pm    Author: cfd    Post subject: Re: Great mystery bug (Birthday discussion) split

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September 12th


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Aaron Brock

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:47 pm    Author: Aaron Brock    Post subject: Re: Great mystery bug (Birthday discussion) split

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maggieq

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:57 pm    Author: maggieq    Post subject: Re: Great mystery bug (Birthday discussion) split

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:D August 4th


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James1978

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 8:07 pm    Author: James1978    Post subject: Re: Great mystery bug (Birthday discussion) split

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January 31st. :)

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Michael DeVere

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 8:13 pm    Author: Michael DeVere    Post subject: Re: Great mystery bug (Birthday discussion) split

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14th June.

If Paul O'Grady posted here then we'd get a match as his birthday is the same date as mine.


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Tom22

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 8:51 pm    Author: Tom22    Post subject: Re: Great mystery bug (Birthday discussion) split

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Urm there is already a birthday thread... why not use the first 22 people on there :ponder: :eyes:

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H.RAMZ123

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:15 pm    Author: H.RAMZ123    Post subject: Re: Great mystery bug (Birthday discussion) split
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21st June :-D


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Skyline

PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:55 pm    Author: Skyline    Post subject: Re: Great mystery bug (Birthday discussion) split
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cookie_monster

PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2009 9:52 pm    Author: cookie_monster    Post subject: Re: Great mystery bug (Birthday discussion) split
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alex xxx

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:27 pm    Author: alex xxx    Post subject: Re: Great mystery bug (Birthday discussion) split

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4th July all Independant me :-D

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garylq

PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 7:12 pm    Author: garylq    Post subject: Re: Great mystery bug (Birthday discussion) split
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12 birthdays posted so far, but still no match, please keep 'em coming!

Only another 11 to go and we will have a greater than 50% chance of a match.

Dates posted so far;

Jan 31st
Apr 12th
Apr 18th
May 10th
Jun 14th
Jun 21st
Jul 4th
Aug 4th
Aug 14th
Sep 12th
Sep 17th
Dec 13th

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East-Wing-Emma

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:20 pm    Author: East-Wing-Emma    Post subject: Re: Great mystery bug (Birthday discussion) split
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14th April

Hubby is a match with Aaron though on 10th May :smt023

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h2005

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 12:36 pm    Author: h2005    Post subject: Re: Great mystery bug (Birthday discussion) split
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Well we have a match with locations, as I am from Chelmsford and it seems EmmaT is too. :lol:

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Tom

PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 2:19 pm    Author: Tom    Post subject: Re: Great mystery bug (Birthday discussion) split

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August 18th.


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