How long do people get for using knifes that don't kill? Only a few months isn't it? What is our society coming to?

Well it was attempted murder so they were going to do it. Our society needs to give them a longer sentence because if they don't kill the first time, they'll kill the second time. Thats what they need to understand.

Wasn't there someone who stabbed their victim and had to do 10 years in prison, but they only had to do 5. A killer and a danger to public is only taken off the streets for 5 years, when most killers should get 25 years. It's pathetic, it makes me so mad. All these stabbings, they aren't really news anymore because they're so common.

The criminal justice system has gone to pot and needs a total reshuffle. However, Labour aren't the ones capable of doing it, though the day a Conservative government gets back into power (which seems likely...) is the day everyone realises just how much of a state this country is in- and with David Cameron as PM it will only get worse- it's a catch 22 situation with so few solutions and that's what makes it all the more terrible.

And a man who got stabbed for telling some kids to stop ruining his wives car. How disgusting is that? And they were sniggering in court that is anti-social behaviour. Thats means 'I don't regret it, I'm happy I stabbed a innocent man, I don't care about the consequences'. I think people like that shouldn't get 25 years or 50 years, they should rot. Be seperated from the outside world and rot.

Although seeing how there are many like that today, there aren't going to be enough prisons for them all.

A 60 year old man who asked some kids to stop swearing in front of his girlfriend was pushed off a bus by them and has suffered critical head injuries. There is no need. I'd personally like to meet these people and give them a beating. History is repeating it's self. Last time the locals got so annoyed with it they actually beat up and dumped the kids themselves because the police wouldn't do anything. Many were done for kidnap. That's what I have been informed.

A teen who thinks being a part of a gang is going to make them popular must have polluted minds.

If that's the way society has dragged them up then they really aren't going to know any better than this...

I thought I would set up a thread for this as it was in my hometown. Have a read, but I warn you, if you are not willing to see very graphic images do not read.

A woman involved in Friday morning's road crash in Bury has died.
She was one of three people injured when a Rover car veered out of control in Bolton Street, near to its junction with Millett Street.
The vehicle ploughed into a lamp-post at 5.15am and became wrapped around the metal column.
The woman, aged 33 and the driver of the car, was thrown from the vehicle.
Two male passengers, aged 19 and 21, were cut from the wreckage by firefighters.
The 19-year-old man is believed to have undergone surgery at Fairfield General Hospital to have a leg amputated.
The other man, aged 21, suffered minor injuries and has since been discharged from Rochdale Infirmary.
Bolton Street was closed in both directions on Friday morning as police carried out an accident investigation.


R.I.P Katie Anne Mather

Yet another tragedy to add to the long list of cruel and unfortunate deaths of recent years. My thoughts are with her family and friends- she may not have been anyone to us but to them she was everything and that must be a horrific thing to go through. Makes you feel very lucky to be alive sometimes when you see things like this.

Aye. Redrum said it all. This sort of thing is, of course, very negative but does indeed remind us of how lucky we are, in effect gives us a neccessarily-harsh jolt back to reality.
These things happen and, being not local to Ramsbottom or Bury or wherever Joel actually lives, I personally am not deeply saddened. I for one never knew this woman, or the poor guy who, as we speak, is lying in a hospital bed with one leg less than yesterday. However. My condolences to the family and friends of Miss or Mrs Mather, and, without wishing to sound unneccessarily funny, the leg of the Man With No Name and the man himself.

It never ends unfortunately - god bless to their family.

What I thought was most shocking was that the car actually 'wrapped' its self around the lamp post. This was probably the most horrific car crash in Bury for ages...
My dad told me at first, he said that there was blood smeared across the floor from where Katie and the driver had been flung out of the car and slid across the road, and the road had been closed whilst the fire fighters were pulling the two boys out. Anyway I don't want to think about it anymore as it was just terrible and it brings back memories of when I got hit by a car when I was nine.

NIIIIIIIIICE.

And what better way 'not to think about it' than to smear the gory details across the forum.

Jeez. Talk about tasteless.

Bah. Wimp.

Back onto the subject of stabbings, there's not much else to say. These people do not need help, nor do the want it - and chances are they'd stab you if you offered them it. As I have always said, for this majority of the population only, bring back executions. But not the noose. No, that's too quick and easy, believe it or not. Bring back hanging, drawing and quartering, or maybe give them a taste of their own medicine.
Whether or not executing every chav, every yob in the country is the key solution, what needs to be done is this: In any way, shape or form possible, do something that will show these people, make a lasting impression on them and actually make them change their ways. The government has to stop dreaming and get a bloody move on. It's all very well saying you'll do something, but until you start doing it that dream will never become a reality.

You've said some stupid things in your time but this just takes the biscuit. We threw the concept of the death penalty out long ago and we don't want to go back to it. It's inhumane (it puts you on the same level as them), it's an easy way out (they should be forced to rot in prison- with none of the cushy privileges they currently have in their cells) and there can be mistakes that can't be undone. 1 innocent life is 1 innocent life too many- we can't possibly justify taking this sort of gamble.



And that's the kind of mindless bigotry that put Hitler in power.