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psychokiller

PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:14 pm    Author: psychokiller    Post subject: Re: The News, Politics and Current Affairs Thread
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I read it in the Sunday Mirror.

Even if it not as innocent as it appears, it still dosen't justify that attack on him.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:41 pm    Author: "The Banker"    Post subject: Re: The News, Politics and Current Affairs Thread

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BBC News wrote:
New ring detected around Saturn

A colossal new ring has been identified around Saturn.

The dusty hoop lies some 13 million km (eight million miles) from the planet, about 50 times more distant than the other rings and in a different plane.

Scientists tell the journal Nature that the tenuous ring is probably made up of debris kicked off Saturn's moon Phoebe by small impacts. They think this dust then migrates towards the planet where it is picked up by another Saturnian moon, Iapetus.


Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8291905.stm

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:43 pm    Author: h2005    Post subject: Re: The News, Politics and Current Affairs Thread
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I like the way they use the phrase "kicked off"... very scientific!

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:10 pm    Author: h2005    Post subject: Re: The News, Politics and Current Affairs Thread
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Dozens of Greenpeace protesters have scaled the roof of the Houses of Parliament to protest about the lack of environmental policies in the recent party conferences...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8301640.stm

Apparently some are still up there, and they've now started projecting big messages onto the side of the building.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:16 am    Author: Maud    Post subject: Re: The News, Politics and Current Affairs Thread
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Why oh why has Noel stole my idea???

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/8307304.stm

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h2005

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:04 pm    Author: h2005    Post subject: Re: The News, Politics and Current Affairs Thread
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Nick Griffin, leader of the BNP 'party', will be on Question Time tonight at 10:35 on BBC 1.

Might be worth watching if you're interested, as I think it gets quite heated...!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:45 pm    Author: Tom22    Post subject: Re: The News, Politics and Current Affairs Thread

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He goes along fine and then BANG shoots himself in the foot... it's getting quite humorous. Why did he turn on Jack Straws father like that? Ridiculous.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:48 pm    Author: Tom22    Post subject: Re: The News, Politics and Current Affairs Thread

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Also you can see the only BNP supporter in the crowd... when the shot from the back is shown he is the only one clapping when everyone else isnt or not clapping whenever everyone is.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:35 pm    Author: Maud    Post subject: Re: The News, Politics and Current Affairs Thread
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Did someone just call him a Knobend???

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:48 pm    Author: Tom22    Post subject: Re: The News, Politics and Current Affairs Thread

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Hmmm thats was a very nasty show to watch. QT is normally quite fair and balanced but that really did feel like a bit of a witch hunt and was never allowed to talk when every other panellist got lengthy spaces to answer. Still Griffin was an idiot and making stuff up and denying stuff youve been filmed saying wasnt clever...
Where was any questions about Gurkha's?
Where was the stuff about the Postal Strike?
Jack Straw does look like the Demon Headmaster doesnt he?
Bonnie Greer is a legend isnt she?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:52 pm    Author: h2005    Post subject: Re: The News, Politics and Current Affairs Thread
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Tom22 wrote:
Jack Straw does look like the Demon Headmaster doesnt he?

He certainly does.

I don't really see the point of having Nick Griffin on the panel, as it was always going to cause a lot of tension and result in a show which was largely about what people thought of him and his beliefs. Not much else was discussed at all...

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:31 am    Author: psychokiller    Post subject: Re: The News, Politics and Current Affairs Thread
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I taped around 20 minutes of the protest off Channel 503- BBC News.

Shall keep it for posterity. :smt023


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:28 am    Author: h2005    Post subject: Re: The News, Politics and Current Affairs Thread
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Were you involved with it?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:32 am    Author: h2005    Post subject: Re: The News, Politics and Current Affairs Thread
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Tom22 wrote:
that really did feel like a bit of a witch hunt

It certainly does feel like that, even 12 hours after the show! I just caught a bit of ITV News, and they quoted Griffin as saying he found "gay kissing to be creepy". He didn't say that; he said he "thought a lot of people would find gay kissing in public to be creepy". It's amazing how a whole meaning of a sentence can be changed by omitting a few words.

Having said that, I can't stand Griffin and I hate the attitudes of his 'party'.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:12 pm    Author: psychokiller    Post subject: Re: The News, Politics and Current Affairs Thread
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h2005 wrote:
Were you involved with it?


No I wasn't, and I never would be.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:30 pm    Author: Maud    Post subject: Re: The News, Politics and Current Affairs Thread
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Bonnie Greer is a legend isnt she?


She really is.

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h2005

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:19 am    Author: h2005    Post subject: Re: The News, Politics and Current Affairs Thread
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Hahahahaha, this is brilliant!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QAvkFS_ ... er_embedde

Amazing what some re-editing can do.

Nick Griffin: "I am thoroughly unpleasant and really creepy."
David Dimbleby: "Mr Griffin is a wicked and vicious, repulsive misguided twit."

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:09 pm    Author: alexandercbrown    Post subject: Re: The News, Politics and Current Affairs Thread

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I agree with h that the having the show with griffin was a bit controversial as it would be lead to 'awkward debate' but I suppose they had to do it because of their MEPs.

With regards to what Tom said I suppose any 'representative audience' is going to be 94% against the bnp but maybe they should have restricted the questions to only 50% about the bnp.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:10 pm    Author: Jimmy    Post subject: Re: The News, Politics and Current Affairs Thread
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I despair for them I really do. The BBC that is.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:32 pm    Author: tr4962    Post subject: Re: The News, Politics and Current Affairs Thread

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My opinion on the BNP/Nick Griffin situation is that they are allowed their opinion, and should not be treated like that for it. I do not agree with their policies at all, but they are entitled to believe whatever they want.

People that attack him are showing just as much discrimination as he does, as i don't believe people (even racists) can help their opinions. I don't think racism is good at all, but it often can't be helped, a lot of racist people haven't been properly educated about other races, or exposed to other races, therefore they become worried when confronted with these situations, then this can turn into hatred. Its very similar with homophobia - and why lots of older people and people from other religions are homophobic

I can't understand people who can't get it into their heads that everyone is entitled to their opinions, whether its food, music or important things such as this, i prefer ageism, sexism and racism to that.

H is absolutely right about what he said about homosexuality and the way the press twisted what he said. I find that absolutely unacceptable to change things like that to brainwash people.

I think some of the audience of question time were just there to follow like sheep and join in the witch hunt. and i can't quite understand Bonnie Greer as she was constantly insulting Griffin and saying his policies were immoral etc, then condoning an article against homosexuality saying democracy and freedom of speech are essential in a country or whatever (i can't remember her exact words, its too far back), but she doesn't seem to apply this to Griffin, and as for the audience member who called him 'Dick Griffin', that was a pathetic immature jibe.

I don't like the BNP, but this Question time was far too one sided for me


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