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johindes

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:51 am    Author: johindes    Post subject:
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In fact the same did happen last year with Jodie Marsh being bullied by Barrymore, Pete Burns, and George Galloway but that wasnt blown out to this proportion! I mean, being raised in Prime Ministers Questions and protests in India??? Have all these complaints actually watched the show? As opposed to just the highlights?

Yes Danielle, Jade and Jo are being nasty, spiteful vindictive little cows but it isnt a racist undertone at all. Mimicking someones accent could be done of anyone, and some of those comments mentioned come about more through their absolute stupidity as opposed to being racist.

Endemol must be delighted at all the free publicity for the show, its worked a treat!




I said that exact thing to a friend in work tonight,, it didnt have all this hype when Jodie Marsh was reduced to tears by a group bullying.

I have to admit to not watching this one as much as all the other BB shows in the past as it has not been that good,, and putting the Goodys in was a total mistake. With Jade's mother, its so obvious where Jade didnt get her brains from.

Jade is just being a nasty cow, and the other two are just following like sheep. Although I did read on the bb site tonight that Danielle has made up with Shilpa in secret so...

Its just a clash of brains and beauty against Jade, and Jade has done what she knows best and opened her gob without thinking. When they are all out of the house, the one thats going to come off worst is Jade.

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Maud

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:08 am    Author: Maud    Post subject:
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By Ken Russell in the Telegraph

Why do Jane Goody and the rest of the" terrorists", as I call them, detest Bollywood actress Shilpa Shetty?

Because she is different.

That is why the angry mob ganged up on her, while the others retained what they liked to think was a dignified silence but looked more like gutless acquiescence.

Fans of Celebrity Big Brother are watching in increasing discomfort as the unfamiliarity between Shilpa’s culture and the Goodys’ looks increasingly less like a failure to communicate and more like an agenda on the part of the Goody Gang to scapegoat and belittle the Bollywood actress.

I was the second "terrorist" hostage to escape from the Big Brother House, but I have followed every moment since my departure. The racist overtones have become undeniable.

Jade, with enormous vigour and obsessive needling, has instinctively formed a bullying cadre of Jo O’Meara, Danielle Lloyd and her boyfriend Jack Tweed against Shilpa for no discernable reason.

With phrases like “dog,” “bitch,” “who does she think she is,” “you’re just a cook,” “c***” and “what are you, a hairy man?” accumulating from the Goody Girl-Gang-and-Toyboy, a nation squirmed under the impression that there were distinct racial motivations to the bullyers’ body language, insults and apparent agenda to exclude and attack Shilpa.

Other than an inherent dislike for the spiritual Shilpa’s being different, pretty, full of integrity and fairly secure in her personhood, Jade had no other provocation other than the thrill of self-righteousness to crucify the poor girl.

Jermaine Jackson, also a person of colour, escaped bullying because he was a Jackson, and perhaps too because he didn’t overtly seek to antagonize Jade’s Viper Pit and thus make himself a target.

Jade’s mother Jackiey called Shilpa 'the Indian girl’ and seemed to blame Shilpa for Jackiey’s own inability to pronounce her name, as though Shilpa had intentionally set out to irritate Jackiey by having a name that Jackie would have a difficult time pronouncing. (Compare that with Shilpa’s own gentle self-reproach for mispronouncing Dirk’s name “Duck,” an error she then practiced diligently to overcome, and did.) For Jackiey, Shilpa would always be “what’s-her-name.”

Former Miss Great Britain Danielle Lloyd, obviously wanting to be accepted by Jade as having “street cred,” began accusing Shilpa of “doin’ ’er ’ead in”. One saw in Danielle a pitiful need to “belong” to the “tough girls” who weren’t afraid to bully someone whose skin, manners, gracefulness and openness set her apart from the Pillowtalk Gang-of-Three. Having been bullied herself in the past, she no doubt had learned to protect herself by clinging to the most effective abuser like a bodyguard.

Inflamed herself with drink and hostility, she went on to call Shilpa a “dog” and to say “we (meaning Jade and Danielle) are friends and you’re just the cook.”

Singer Jo O’Meara, driven by a restless impulse to match her girlfriends’ obsession with Shilpa, called the unoffending Indian actress “a control freak.” She too claimed 'the Indian girl’ was “doin’ ’er ’ead in”. The girls repeat insulting phrases like a kind of babytalk to bond with each other.

All the bullying had a disturbing racist subtext. “She undercooks chicken like that because that’s what the people over there do, and they’re all diseased.”

“I don’t want her touching my food.”

Any miscalculation Shilpa makes, the three girls leap upon. The stew down the toilet gave them another outlet for contempt and expressions of repulsion aimed at Shilpa.

Jermaine Jackson tried to cushion the pain of Shilpa’s scapegoating and exile by explaining patiently that the gangsters showed the mindsets of (he mouthed the phrase) “white trash.”

He reminded Shilpa of her spiritual values, her dignity, her need not to win their approval but only to “be herself.”

One could feel a nation shouting mentally at Shilpa not to debate Jade, as every argument was only a set-up for Jade to shame her.

And were we to believe that Jade’s “dream”, in which Shilpa “in her sari with her relatives and her fat female cousin in saris” kicked Jade, Jo and Danielle, gave some insight into a secret Shilpa? I don’t think so. It was only another means of attacking Shilpa.

What does all this say about our larger culture in Britain, whose public policies brag about “multiculturalism” and so on, but whose inability to assimilate large numbers of society is glaringly obvious?

I’m no expounder of political correctness. I like to see people free to make mistakes in public and to cross-pollinate closed societies with the fresh air of rebellion and outspokenness.

But when a mean-spirited, close-minded group of people are seen to be gathering strength in numbers and fan clubs, overcompensating for their own feelings of weakness by singling out someone based on colour or costume, it must be noticed and stopped.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:44 pm    Author: #1 Box 4 fan    Post subject:
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For me Daniel the women and Jo are the worst. Laughing and sniggering. Do they get kicks out of this sort of thing? If I were in there in give 'em something back. Also I was completly wrong about Jo. What a bitch.


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tr4962

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:03 pm    Author: tr4962    Post subject:

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it should stop soon, jade and shilpa are up for eviction
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Kay

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:29 pm    Author: Kay    Post subject:
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Big Brother always seems to show just how two faced humans are! :? :(


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Tom22

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 5:53 pm    Author: Tom22    Post subject:

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The Carphone warehouse pulled it's sponsorship from CBB today, which well be intresting when the adverts come on during the show!

Also the police are keeping a constant survailance of the house (in other words their watching E4)!

Also Jade and Shilpa were nominated to go up for eviction today! :P

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rico7

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:07 pm    Author: rico7    Post subject:
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tr4962 wrote:
it should stop soon, jade and shilpa are up for eviction
I hope jade goes
If Shilpa gets evicted then it is a very sad reflection on our society. Jade must GO and Davina must address the racist issue in the interview!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:25 pm    Author: #1 Box 4 fan    Post subject:
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rico7 wrote:
tr4962 wrote:
it should stop soon, jade and shilpa are up for eviction
I hope jade goes
If Shilpa gets evicted then it is a very sad reflection on our society. Jade must GO and Davina must address the racist issue in the interview!


Davina won't she's to much of a pussy.

Also Jade's purfume has been pulled! :smt043 :smt043 :smt043 :smt043 :smt043 :smt043 :smt043


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tr4962

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:33 pm    Author: tr4962    Post subject:

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Kay wrote:
Big Brother always seems to show just how two faced humans are! :? :(


a lot Davina and the audience talk about the housemates nastily and then as soon as they come out they cheer. that is a prime example


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Super Aguri

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:39 pm    Author: Super Aguri    Post subject:
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Well just watching Big Brothers Little Brother on E4 and they usually open it with the nomnation announcements but they didn't do that :?

and it doesnt look like the phone lines are open either I don't think....... :? No mention of it on any of the E4 Shows yet as I am aware of.

Even though it clearly has Shilpa and Jades pics on the official site as "nominated"

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/news/index.jsp

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Vote lines are now closed on their Nominations page


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Tom22

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:49 pm    Author: Tom22    Post subject:

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BB have said that they have cancelled there live audience for the eviction tonight and who ever gets evicted well have an armoured escort for the next week or until everything to die down!

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rico7

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:45 pm    Author: rico7    Post subject:
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who ever gets evicted well have an armoured escort for the next week or until everything to die down!
Or in other words, Jade.


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Bounce7800

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:46 pm    Author: Bounce7800    Post subject:
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1/100 on Jade. Place your bets now :-D

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:52 pm    Author: rico7    Post subject:
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I totally agree that what Jade did was wrong and together with one or two other contestants, Shilpa definitely experienced racism. However, I hope that Jade doesn't get too much of a hard time when she leaves the BB house tonight after her negative exposure in the press as there could be a nasty public backlash to come. It has definitely exposed one of the major flipsides of reality TV.


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tr4962

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:31 pm    Author: tr4962    Post subject:

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after this i certainly wont be watching the next one


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rico7

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:33 pm    Author: rico7    Post subject:
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after this i certainly wont be watching the next one
:shock: Will there even be a next one?


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Maud

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:35 pm    Author: Maud    Post subject:
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rico7 wrote:
I totally agree that what Jade did was wrong and together with one or two other contestants, Shilpa definitely experienced racism. However, I hope that Jade doesn't get too much of a hard time when she leaves the BB house tonight after her negative exposure in the press as there could be a nasty public backlash to come. It has definitely exposed one of the major flipsides of reality TV.


I heard her sons are getting death threats, whoever is doing that is worse then Jade herself

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:29 pm    Author: johindes    Post subject:
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Jade's out, no surprise there then.

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Tom22

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:34 pm    Author: Tom22    Post subject:

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johindes wrote:
Jade's out, no surprise there then.


And is probably half way through her interview which leaves them enough time for them to edit it and give us the processed version :?

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Maltus

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:22 am    Author: Maltus    Post subject:

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Quote from Jade in her decidedly un-remorseful interview, when asked by Davina what she had learnt from her time in the house:

"What I've learnt is that I'm not the person I was in the house"

The fact is, she is that person. We've been watching her be that person every day for the last week. If she's really in that much denial then frankly she hasn't learnt anything from her time in there.


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