X-Factor Discussion

**Posted:** Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:15 am **Author:** wakey1512 **Post subject:**

The idea final would be Ben and Ray. But no, Leona ruins it. If Ray and Ben got through, that's when I don't give a crap who wins, because both positions (1st and 2nd) get a recording contract (Remember Gareth Gates?)

Plus, Ben probably will get one even for coming third (Remember Darius?)

Now, Ray HAS to win. Which will be awkward for me if he doesn't.

**Posted:** Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:27 am **Author:** Maud **Post subject:**

david3383 wrote:

Ray DOESN'T have the X Factor!!! Leona and Ben do as they have more talent than Ray does. Ray's only good enough for an am-dram production.

Im sorry but IMO he does, he can wow entertain the crowd and keep them amused, can you imagine leona selling out vegas? I cant coz what would she say inbetween songs?

**Posted:** Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:43 pm **Author:** Maltus **Post subject:**

Maud wrote:

david3383 wrote:

Ray DOESN'T have the X Factor!!! Leona and Ben do as they have more talent than Ray does. Ray's only good enough for an am-dram production.

Im sorry but IMO he does, he can wow entertain the crowd and keep them amused, can you imagine leona selling out vegas? I cant coz what would she say inbetween songs?

Totally agree.

Leona seems a nice girl, great voice, but no spark of personality.

**Posted:** Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:12 pm **Author:** Maud **Post subject:**

Maltus wrote:

Maud wrote:

david3383 wrote:

Ray DOESN'T have the X Factor!!! Leona and Ben do as they have more talent than Ray does. Ray's only good enough for an am-dram production.

Im sorry but IMO he does, he can wow entertain the crowd and keep them amused, can you imagine leona selling out vegas? I cant coz what would she say inbetween songs?

Totally agree.

Leona seems a nice girl, great voice, but no spark of personality.

Always knew you were clever Maltus :lol:

leona is shy and quiet now but i do remember mariah being like that before she hit it big, look at her now :shock:

**Posted:** Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:52 am **Author:** rico7 **Post subject:**

Ray and Leona are very talented, but of those two Leona is most likely to have durability as a pop star, although that is far from guaranteed. It may be the case that she has one successful CD only. There's an interesting link detailing how the various winners of The X Factor, Fame Academy, Pop Idol, Popstars etc. have fared. It's one thing to win this competition, but you also need the "X" Factor to become a durable pop star. Think about One True Voice, David Sneddon, Steve Brookstein and others. What are they doing now? Others have been more successful:

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/xfactor/pastwinners.html

**Joined:** Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:27 pm **Warnings:** 0

personally I won't be watching this weekend as i think the winner is a foregone conclusion my fave Ben has gone and I think Leona will storm it despite Kate thornton probably telling us there is only 1 percent in it to get us to text in, I prefer all the ones who can't sing as the result of this year was so predictable

**Posted:** Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:21 pm **Author:** Ian W **Post subject:**

It is all set up for Leona to win so there is no point in arguing. Please hold me to this if she doesn't but she will!

You can all rub it in my face if she dosen't

**Joined:** Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:11 pm **Warnings:** 0

I wouldn't be suprised if Ray won, simply because he's male.
I can't imagine either of them actually having a career, like Shayne Ward last year. Everyone was like "Oh my god! Shayne Ward! He's the new Robbie!" And now where is he? In the papers a few months after he won, saying how he didnt have any money, and his last single got to no.17, now everyone's forgotten about him.

Granted, I wouldn't buy Ray's music if he won, but he's cute, so I'm supporting him.

Oh, and my Mum got us tickets to the tour in March, which means I get to see Ray, Ashley, Ben etc. Plus Eton Rd (Phwoar!)

**Posted:** Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:33 pm **Author:** greeny **Post subject:**

I'm only watching tomorrow because Take That are on tomorrow (more opportunity for hammondstar to see Gary).

**Joined:** Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:11 pm **Warnings:** 0

NO.WAY.

Take That are on tomorrow? OMGawsh, Ray Quinn and Gary Barlow?!

Sorry, but that is just...phenominal :smt038

Aww, I love Gary. I want to be Mrs Barlow. Or Mrs Barlow-Flowers-Brand-Doherty-Pitt-Cruise-Beckham-Armstrong-Dunbar-Beckett-Freeman-Englasias-Perry-Cole-Owen-Ferdinand-Best-Brosnan-Harman-Williams-Gerrard-Quinn-Hayes-Pemberton-Ross-Hammond will also do

**Joined:** Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:24 pm **Warnings:** 0

hahaha Louis in Morris mode there!!

"All I can say Ray is you've come a long way"

Erm yeah... good performance but when are Take That on!!

:oops:

**Posted:** Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:38 pm **Author:** wakey1512 **Post subject:**

Erm, Sean has just been invited on the stage - with his 'I'll be right here waiting for you' song.

God, there is a horrible woman in the back of the audience who keeps screaming 'AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA'

**Posted:** Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:02 pm **Author:** greeny **Post subject:**

Leona's performance with Take That was amazing, she deserves to win it, but I fear that Ray may win.

**Joined:** Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:24 pm **Warnings:** 0

greeny wrote:

Leona's performance with Take That was amazing, she deserves to win it, but I fear that Ray may win.

Oh.. I thought she was off key for a lot of it! :shock:

and that beginning bit was just awful.. how to ruin a classic song!
Amazing how different people can hear totally different things!

Saying that.. I'm not fussed who wins this at all!!

Where do I vote for Sean!? :-D

**Posted:** Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:33 pm **Author:** Adam L **Post subject:**

That "Thats what friends are for" song made me cry, just made me think of all you lovely people who've just brightened up my life forever :cry:

**Joined:** Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:11 pm **Warnings:** 0

If that comment is directed to Steph I don't know what I'll do.

Anyway...how AMAZING was Ray?!?!?! He seriously has to win this, there is no way Leona will ever be a star, she just stands there and screams, plus I agree with Cazzie, half of it was off key tonight. In my opinion, her lack of personality will just let her down, she's an awful woman.

Ray on the other hand was excellent. 'My Way' was definatly the performance of the night. He has got to win.

Please vote Ray :smt047

**Posted:** Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:03 pm **Author:** Ian W **Post subject:**

Ray was crap! LEONA WAS BRILLIANT!!!!!

**Joined:** Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:11 pm **Warnings:** 0

Hmmm, jealous of Ray's good looks methinks. Just because you can't grow a 'Quinny Quiff' :roll:

**Posted:** Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:09 pm **Author:** Adam L **Post subject:**

hammondstar wrote:

If that comment is directed to Steph I don't know what I'll do.

Anyway...how AMAZING was Ray?!?!?! He seriously has to win this, there is no way Leona will ever be a star, she just stands there and screams, plus I agree with Cazzie, half of it was off key tonight. In my opinion, her lack of personality will just let her down, she's an awful woman.

Ray on the other hand was excellent. 'My Way' was definatly the performance of the night. He has got to win.

Please vote Ray :smt047

no, its to everyone on the forums exept you.

**Posted:** Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:25 pm **Author:** Ian W **Post subject:**

You tell her Adam!

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