Mel's game today.

Noel talks about the likelyhood of the 1p coming to the pound table twice in a row, and how it has happened over the past 2 days, and Shaun going away with it yesterday

OH no... yet it's happened ONCE again... yesterday she had the £250,000. Oh dear.

Mel has box 10 today. It is a massive shock for Mel to be playing today, and she is really shaking.... Mel is a self-employed funeral director, and Noel says that is quite a surprise to see someone so young doing this job. Mel tells Noel that she came by the role as when she was younger she went on a computer system and it came up with that role for her, and she went on a work experience for it, and the rest is history...

We get to see a few pics of Mel at work, and of her dog in fancy dress


Here we go...

Well the KUDOS career thing (I think that's what it's called... it's what I used anyway) said I should be a farmer when I tried it in Year 11.

Oh and seeing as Mel likes undertaking, I wonder if her surname is Vohmann? I know a Vohmann who likes talking about death and the undertaking industry...

Hmm, I'm watching this because she's local and has box 10, (plus she's quite attractive )

Oh, and Mark, you're like a broken record. It doesn't matter that she had it yesterday.

Mel.. another wobbly timid soul.... hope she doesnt cave in..

Round 1

19 - £250 Laura

8 - £5 Semi

6 - £10 John - or Jonny Vegas as Mel calls him

Mel asks to stop now as it's going well...

Adie next, but Mel has a little present for him first and it's some lip gloss for him

14 - £75,000 Adie

1 - £500 Simon

Banker time

I like the way Simon opens his boxes... as if he appears to be sensually rubbing the sides of the lids when he reveals the amount.

She may not have expected to be there yet, but that doesn't necessarily mean she'll Greeny it as it were. The first two rounds might settle the nerves.

Oh, and I think Kudos suggested 'commodity broker' or something like that for me in Year 10. Much of that job wouldn't be bad, a fair bit would be fascinating, but it'd burn me out in a couple of years at most.

A happy start, considering she's an undertaker

Good opening round too.

Oooh I love her giggles!! *sexy*

Mel doesn't think that round was too bad... The banker says he is in a lovely mood today, and it's nothing to do with Mel, it's that Shaun is the 13th member of the 1p club. Noel wonders where all the members of the 1p club will live now, and the banker thinks it will be in a care home!!

The banker says that Mel has a dirty laugh

Banker offers

£10,000

Mel says it's a lovely offer, but she will not be the first one to go on the first offer...

Mel says

NO DEAL

What do you mean greeny it? In case you hadn't realised, I'm quickly losing the tag of most cautious player (I would have won 1p yesterday and in Sue's game).

Stats after Round 1
Offer: £10,000
Mean: £28,815.09
Offer (%): 34.70%
Fair Deal: £11,082.70
Volatility: 1.04
Redometer: 7

Board
1p
10p
50p
£1
£5
£0

£100


£750
£1,000
£3,000
£5,000
£10,000
£15,000
£20,000
£35,000
£50,000

£100,000
£250,000

Ah yes, it was Year 10 and not Year 11. Although I hear they are making year 9s and year 8s do it nowadays. Anyway, I think it said "farmer" for me because I said I wouldn't mind working outdoors... haha.

Anyway, I'm not sure what to make of Mel at the moment, she seems quite domineering and not shy - could be a tough job for the banker... or she may deal at the third offer. I really can't read her to be honest. I'd expect it has some guts to go into the job of undertaking as a 25-year-old woman, so she must be quite "gutsy"...

The offers will be above average today. The banker always offers more when it's a pretty girl in the chair...

Noel adjusts Mel's top as her mic is sticking out, and Mel announces that Noel has just touched her bum

Next round

5 - £3,000 Woodsy

4 - £750 Nic

Noel says we are overdue a massive money game, and this could be the one... He then calls a break to check Mel's mic again!!!

I know you have, hence the 'as it were'.

Cautious play is still referred to as 'Greenyism' and yes, it's a misnomer now, but I can't think of a rational/catchy opposite. 'KPism' sounds rubbish and I'm not always that cautious anyway, 'H-ism' sounds wrong...

Lucky Devil

Ooooo arrr what do you think about the new Massey coming out? I've got 20 acres you have 43, I've got a brand new combine harvester and I'll give you the key Oo arr Ooo arrr


When I did that test it said I should be a biologist of some kind... I think it just chooses them out at random

No wonder she's so happy. Piles of money to be made in undertaking. Everybody is usually too upset to haggle on price so pay up an extortionate amount.

You can almost guarantee as well that if she deals too soon, Noel won't rub it in too much. Which is good in itself, but I find it rather amusing that if it's a young male he rubs it in a lot (e.g. Steven / Spiky Paul...).

Oh I think it does because she would have won that if she went all the way. If she had it 4 or 5 games ago then it would be fine yes, but a day before, I don't think that's nice somehow.

We're back
Last box before the banker
Adie is putting on his lip gloss

17 - £50 Chris

Banker time

Fantastic start...rare to see all but one of the big amounts still in play at this stage...

I bet he offers her a large amount... £15,000??

It's a great profession to be in when you look at it. You always have business and it increases at normally dull times of the year (e.g. winter when people are dying). The ageing population in Britain means there'll be even more booming business in years to come. Oh, and I learnt this in "Economics of Property Development" lectures last term.

The banker blows a big kiss to Adie, and says more lady than Adie!! Mel is enjoying her hot chocolate, and the banker thinks he is in big trouble today now...

Banker offers

£16,500

Told ya.

Stats after Round 2
Offer: £16,500
Mean: £34,721.54
Offer (%): 47.52%
Fair Deal: £14,836.46
Volatility: 1.06
Redometer: 13 (↑6)

Board
1p
10p
50p
£1



£100



£1,000

£5,000
£10,000
£15,000
£20,000
£35,000
£50,000

£100,000
£250,000

£16.5k. Good offer for a great board.

Haha looks like she'll need the £250k with a list like that.

God, the banker is sooooo predictable. Giving it all the "ooh I am worried" rubbish. It's just cuz she is a pretty girl. A bloke wouldnt have been offered that much.

The £16,500 there sets up the £26,000 at the third offer given a half-decent round... and it might be worth considering there, but for that very same reason (and many others) this £16,500 isn't.

She deserves it with that board though...still a No Deal though, far too much money in play still!

That's very good says Mel, and she could do a lot with that... Noel asks her what she would spend it on, and she tells Noel that her family gave her a list, her mum wants a new kitchen, her sister wants her student loans cleared, and her nan would like a new bungalow Her sister-in-law wants a new car Noel tells her he thinks she will need the £250,000


Mel says

NO DEAL

Yep exactly and that is what she could have had yesterday.

Damn the £100,000 going. Get rid of the 1p.

Well if she is genuine about wanting a huge target, we could see some extreme Wakeyism in order to reach her target.

And Martin looks like an older version of Adie...

Next round

2 - £100,000 Martin

That's nan's bungalow gone says Noel...

Reg next, and he tells Noel that he is settling in well now and enjoying it

18 - £1,000 Reg

20 - £10,000 Angie

Banker time

Who mentioned earlier in the week if we had a Martin on the show yet? Spooky...

The £100k is gone.. and the £10k is gone.. But the offer will still be good. I BET YA. Predictable.. just watch and see...

And when you die yourself you get a discount on your own funeral too!

In this housing market, the bungalow alone would be more than £250,000.

In a sensible one, it would indeed be £100,000.

Stick?

TOLD YA TOLD YA TOLD YA TOLD YA!!!

The banker says it was nice to hear from Reg, and he has noticed that Reg wears a different shirt everyday, but they are always creased!! The banker asks if Reg wears stripy pyjamas with a draw cord, but Reg tells him he wears nothing!

Banker offers

£20,000

I think greeny asked if we'd had a Martin before after he saw my post in the commentary referring to "newbie Martin".

Stats after Round 3
Offer: £20,000
Mean: £34,100.15
Offer (%): 58.65%
Fair Deal: £13,066.97
Volatility: 2.00
Redometer: -2 (↓15)

Board
1p
10p
50p
£1



£100





£5,000

£15,000
£20,000
£35,000
£50,000


£250,000

The moral of this story.. BE A PRETTY GIRL. Then the offers will be better than average. God. So annoying.

Twenty grand?

I wouldn't blame her if she took that, certainly not after yesterday where a slightly worse offer on a slightly worse board was rejected and a nigh-unavoidable collapse to 1p followed.

But I'd probably go on.

£20k. Must be tempting for her. But it is still a decent board and the biggie is still there.

Ah so he did!

And this is creepy...I'm starting to think it is to do with her being a pretty lady that these offers are going up and up!

Mel asks for a sweep... Woodsy says she would deal as she has student debts, but everyone else would no deal... Mel gets her sister down, as she wants to appear on the TV

Mel says

DEAL

Oh here we go again, 3rd offer... dealt. Argh.

I am glad she dealt anyway. A bit of sense at last.

Well, if that's her genuine decision, good on her for resisting the pressure to change it.

Regardless of whether it is or not, I hope it's an OPW. It would have been yesterday!

I'd have gone on there, but still respect Mel's decision.

Enjoy the money, Mel.

Oh God!

Noel says he is on Mel's side and hopes it was the right decision...

Noel calls a break....

I don't blame her for dealing...but there was an awful lot to still play for...will take the worst of luck to get an OPW here!

Wow that was a bit of a shocker! How long since a 3rd round deal?

basicasic is going to have fun...

Oh well.

Terry in December, I think. I was only looking at the "third offer deals" thread last night and thinking we haven't had one for a while...

I'll hold him to that over the next 15 minutes.

Big Davey. If you look at all the stats since the first episode, then ALL the pretty girls got higher offers than average (27% higher on average). I have been saying this for ages.. When will people accept this??

Oh dear..

Well Noel's hackles seemed to be rising like a very angry goat just before he called the break. Will he have a breakdown like he had in Steven's game, or will he be more calm? We shall soon find out...

I either want this to be a huge OPW or a huge OBW - simply because I'd like to see Noel's face if it's an OPW, but at the same time, I'd like to see just how Wakey he would be these days if it was an OBW...

I'm thinking of jumping overboard.

My personality is to be in denial for conspiracies, is all!

But I have definitely started noticing it...looks like Nic and Woodsy will have good offers then!

Define 'pretty'.



You joined the forum only on Wednesday!!

We have half of the boxes to open yet... Are they going to have any time for any of Noels rants?

Or does it mean a high-speed collapse for an OPW?!?

Probably most of them edited out because she has an all-red squashdown, then a £50,000/£250,000 final two

I pray I don't jinx it though...

Even if it IS an OBW, it doesnt really matter. It's always a worse regret to go away with a lil blue.. than the lost prospect of a larger deal..

We're back
It's proveout time, and Noel asks if Mel has something really clever here, or something really stupid...

Proveout Round

21 - £1 Audrey - NO NO NO says Noel

15 - £15,000 Rachel That is not good enough says Noel

7 - £35,000 Bing

Banker time

I think £40,000 at this point.

You can certainly see the difference between the time scale here. Yesterday's show and today's show started at about 4:14 (slightly early) and at 4:51 yesterday, the final offer was coming through... today it's coming up to 4:50 and we haven't even had the (hypothetical) fourth offer yet!

And Noel is starting to get angry... "Not enough, NOT enough"... his body temperature must be rising.

£30,000 is what I'd be expecting here... and it's £32,000. Yes I'd be out of here now.

That wasn't good enough says Noel... The banker thinks that Mel couldn't believe that she would have had the £250,000 2 days in a row, hence her deal...


Banker would have offered

£32,000

Stats after Round 4
Offer: £32,000
Mean: £40,637.58
Offer (%): 78.74%
Fair Deal: £14,008.56
Volatility: 3.33
Redometer: -6 (↓4)

Board
1p
10p
50p




£100





£5,000


£20,000

£50,000


£250,000

KP.. I didn't join on Wednesday... I renewed my membership on Wednesday... But.. I meant I have been saying verbally to all my family and friends.. sorry for the confusion..

Regarding this "pretty girl" rule, I think that's probably genuine too!

Oh just get on and open the boxes. This dragging it out is so pointless.

Next Proveout round

22 - £50,000 Richie - NO says Noel

12 - £5,000 Newbie Jill - NO NO NO says Noel

You have to find the £250,000

13 - 50p Ben

Banker time

I do find it amusing how the tone of Noel's voice goes from "happy go-lucky entertainment presenter" to some sort of serious person trying to prove a point... haha.

Oh dear. Cod psychology, a blatantly inflated offer (not only would I have gone there, but if I'd known something like that was coming I'd have been much more confident in saying No Deal at £20,000)...

The funeral director's game is showing us reasons for Deal or No Deal to die...

£55,000 I think.

Noel wonders if Mel has brought the £250,000 to the table...

Banker would have offered

£45,000

It would really be £26,000, but it will be quoted as... goodness knows.

Anyone capable of turning down £45,000 on that board either doesn't need or doesn't deserve the money.

Has anyone checked basicasics heart rate or his telly for that matter?

Stats after Round 5
Offer: £45,000
Mean: £54,020.02
Offer (%): 83.30%
Fair Deal: £16,995.69
Volatility: 12.44
Redometer: -8 (↓2)

Board
1p
10p
£100
£20,000
£250,000

His reaction to the £50,000 tells you how much he really wanted her to play on!

£45k - what a golden opportunity wasted.

I'm quite sure that fifth offer would've actually been a stick at £32,000 if she had been in-play.

But it wouldn't have been £45,000 at all. I think she'd have been lucky to get half!

Next proveout round

3 - £250,000 Dot

9 - £100 Ferno

16 - 1p Viv

Banker time with 10p and £20,000 remaining

£8,000 I guess.

The banker would have offered

£4,500

Stats after Round 6
Offer: £4,500
Mean: £10,000.05
Offer (%): 45.00%
Fair Deal: £5,022.39
Volatility: 200000.00
Redometer: -4 (↑4)

Board
10p

£20,000

With both 1p and 10p STILL in play, I would have expected a lower offer if anything!

Haha, £250,000 in box 3. Superb.

I will have no hesitation in declaring this a draw if it's £20,000, because the hypothetical lies give no ability to declare a technical victory to either side.

Noel opens box 10 and reveals 10p

Box 11 - Geoff contains the £20,000

YES! She beat the banker!

She won TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND TIMES what basicasic would have won chasing the 'golden opportunity'.

Unless even he would have taken the £45,000. Watch as he says he would, to save face.

Well done for playing your game Mel, the £20,000 will be put to good use no doubt!

TPW in my eyes, well done Mel!

Shame you didn't get the extra £12,000, but still a good deal.

Wow!

What a week for box amounts to make it to the table! 12p in three games!

Well at least it was a good profit on the box...but I definitely would have gone for at least the £32,000 offer.

So she could have had £45k... but £20k is better than a tiny blue.. Its a game of gamble and chance.. ANy other day she would have said "No deal" at £20k and then opened the £250k in the next box.. It's happened soooo many times... And then people would have been saying "Ohhh why didnt she take the £20k...?"

Shocker of a game. Shocker of a deal. Golden opportunity squandered.

I'm not going to waste any more words on that tripe.

That was one of the most cowardly deals I ever saw but I sensed it coming from the music.

I was enjoying the proveout offers which I am sure especially the 5 box one were genuine .

My only regret was the 250K was not in the box or made it to 2 box just so I could see what the hypo final offer woulda been with 10p fall back in proveout mode .

Nice girl, weak deal, wasted chance! Noel was not fuming as much as I think he shoulda been she deserved Kelsie treatment had the 250k reached 2 box.

Why exactly?

For being so cowardly 20k 50k 35k 250k all on the board and she bails out - pathetic.

You're supposed to be ten years older than me. The way you act half the time, people would think it's the other way around.

You had absolutely nothing to do with her decision, it was her game, not yours. If you ever get on the show you can make your own decisions and I will still respect them.

You just need to learn to do the same for other people.

Mel was one of the most selfless people ever on the show. She probably didn't want to let them down. She didn't know which way her game was going to go.

True; I couldn't see it being more than £32,000... and it was £45,000. Oh dear. Perhaps an ironic reference to Laura's game?



And there we go - Steven's and Mel's game were similar in a way - except that he dealt for more, had higher proveout offers (some of which were above the mean) and he had more in his box. But Noel's attitude in Steven's game was dis-proportionate to his attitude in Mel's game - either he has become less "Wakey" in his attitudes, or he just doesn't rub it in so much with the young female players. I'm sure it's the latter.

As KP said - I was unknowingly comparing this game to Brunhilde's when I made reference to having a huge target and therefore either dealing early or being a huge Wakey and playing on to get it. If only Brunhilde and Mel could've swapped games!

The proveout offers were all over the place too - £32,000 was ok, £45,000 should've been no more than £32,000, and the final one of £4,500 was far too low in comparison, basing it on the fifth offer being 83.3% of the mean!

So a third-offer deal which produces yet another non-OPW... but it's variety like this that makes DOND interesting. It looks like Woodsy (was it?) could be a targetist too... as she also would've dealt the third offer. Maybe Endemol will decide that having young players is a bad idea because they have student debts and are therefore very much targetists? Very odd banker play too... the high offers early in the game doesn't match Noel's encouragement of no dealing. It's like the banker is being on the side of the player nowadays (when he wants to) and Noel is the one being anti-the player when they deal too soon...

Couldn't agree more. She deserved to have her nose rubbed right in it. A big wet lettuce preferably.

The host should be the friend and the Banker the enemy. Now Noel is the enemy from time to time.

The game is becoming a parody of itself. Good thing the show's got other merits then.

Eight days in a luxury hotel and £20,000 in the bank - well done Mel !!!!

It actually plays into the producers hands if they deal for a small amount as it saves Endemol some money (see Golden Balls and Jasper Carrott's constant mentions when two players decide to steal).

I just think today's decision was largely based on the fact that there was already £20,000 available so early in the game, and also don't forget how low the morale must have been in the studio after Shaun's game earlier in the afternoon (Shaun's game was recorded on the same day)

Shaun's game was actually filmed the same day as Mel's which was the last one of the day.

See above plus a load of filtered content for my comment.

What a load of *beep* bull.

Worded wrongly...sorry...but you understand what I meant anyway yeah? The morale would have been so battered!

Furthermore, it was a similar board and offer too!!

A 3rd-round deal, I think that's happened quite a few times

I don't want her to go

Not quite. She could have had more than twice what she dealt. TBW.

I agree with some members here. That was a pathetic deal. I'm not actually going to watch tomorrow because so far the show is going downhill. The only decent game we had was Orry's ages ago. I think RSC is actually more entertaining than this rubbish show deal or no deal.

You see, if she said no deal and won £45,000 it would have been the best show in ages. Except it wasn't because she dealt the third offer, exited with HALF THE GAME LEFT TO PLAY... 11 BOXES STILL READY TO BE OPENED......

Gee the Melanies on this game don't have a good reputation do they? I'll twist KP's comment from another show and pretend this was said before she dealt... 'if she deals this £20,000 she deserves to lose. That is a poor offer'

Turning down the third offer doesn't guarantee a blue win. Maybe a 2% chance would see a massive collapse to 8 box with a push on offer, but the chances are if a bad round occours, there will be a decent get out offer afterwards. She was still odds on for a better offer.

However dealing instantly sets you up for the lost prospect of a larger deal especially when she was odds on for a better offer.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

I knew when I logged on here at 5:30 before I saw the repeat that the thread was 7 pages long, so I knew that there'd be something controversial going on.

But in all honesty, when she said deal, I didn't think "Wow, what a BIg mistake" I actually thought, "Oh god, a contestant who I really like is going to be insulted like she'd murdered someone". I almost think most of the no-dealers here would have been happier to see her go home with 10p. Especially with all the praise Shaun got yesterday!!

And before anyone says "she could have 45 grand", then the whole world and his dog would know that both that and the 32k were way too high - I can't see how either the 8-box or 5-box offers could have been more than the magic 26k - the safety nets were disappearing fast, plus she nearly got the Igor finish! If they don't want people to deal the third offer, they should have made the offer lower rather than saying hypothetical lies!!!

And in my mind she did beat the banker - the banker can always claim a technical win by cheating.

Anyway, I absolutely loved Mel, she was very nearly as good as her third-round dealer namesake, and I may consider putting her in my favourtie 22 line-up, certainly my fave woman from there anyway, and I'm really pleased that she won a lovely sum with a pocket change box at the table.

If you find someone losing £40,999 in five minutes through greed to be the only thing exciting about this show, I'm worried about you.



So why are you posting about it here?



And if she'd taken the fifth offer, she'd have exited with more than one-fifth of the game left to play... 5 boxes still ready to be opened... your definition of 'the game' actually necessarily involves making the first 40 minutes pointless.



The £20,000 was an offer quite disputable either way, with a reasonable argument for both decisions. The £45,000, with all due respect to those who'd be prepared to risk that much money with the odds against them, wasn't.

The £1,000 Michael took a while back, now that did deserve to lead to a bad outcome. As, indeed, occurred.

Watch what you say my pal you may not get a discount.

i don,t think you have any chance of a discount after a remark like that wow and i had just recommended you to her.

with a remark like that you have no chance of any disscount,wow and i had highly recomended you.

[quote="jiveclive"]I don't want her to go [/quote :}) watch your words my good man,she may wan,t you to go HAhaha

Watch your words my man,she may wan,t you to go. HaHaHa.

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Well, this was the 1st show I'd watched properly (or at all) since MJ's and if all of the shows since then have been as pathetic as today's one then I'm pretty glad I didn't bother watching.

Firstly we had Mel who, yes, was a nice enough girl (granted, I didn't have a clue who she was- and as for the rest of the wingers, well the only one who stood out was Reg) and she was relatively entertaining but I just couldn't get into the game she was playing at all.

Then there was the deal which, admittedly, was disappointing but even so, £20,000 is £20,000 at the end of the day. However, both of the higher proveout offers were utter twoddle- I don't for a second believe £32,000 after games like Nicky's and Brunhilde's in which the boards were very similar- and as for the £45,000- don't make me bloody laugh.

Then there was Noel, acting like a spoilt little brat and that's all there is to say. I don't think I'll bother watching at all anymore, the show has just become some pathetic pantomine/parody of its former self.

And to think, my Aunty has an audition soon....

I think Noel does a damn good Job hosting stop picking on him!!

Awwww.....

Mel obviously wasn't a gambler. I surely would have hung in for one round but I imagine there was still that vibe of Shaun's game hanging in the air. Stuff like that has to weigh on a player's mindset.

Oh yes, those inflated offers in proveout were meadow muffins, but I'm sure she lost out on another 10k, not much more....

Enjoy your money, especially with the student loan debt gone!

It did seem that an early deal was coming today (catching up on the show online with a timer visible gives a lot away) but I can't really blame her. It's very difficult to turn down a decent amount of money the show after a 1p win.

This does seem to be a week or so of over-inflated proveout offers. 80% of the mean at 8 box, nearly 83% at 5 box.

As per usual, as soon as the player deals, Noel & t' Banker completely ignore the "significance" that the tiny blues would have played in the next offer... (sigh).

By the way, did Mel say her b'day is 15th March?

Woohoo! Pisceans rock!!! Woohoo!!!

I knew it would get this sort of reaction, even at the moment she dealt.

Basic, the name of the show is "Deal or No Deal" not just "No deal", she dealt when she felt was right and i respect her for that. £20,000 a lovely amount of money.

I personally wouldn't have dealt then but i don't see anything majorly wrong with her doing that. She was a really nice girl, her dealing at the third offer doesn't change that. And i get the feeling that you're not looking forward to Woodsy's game, well who cares if she would also have dealt, to be on the show you are allowed to say Deal when you want, even if there is more money potentially avaliable on the board.

As someone else said in this thread, to not deal at £45,000 would make someone greedy in my view. I'd rather deal at a nice amount [and potentially have had the chance to get a bit more] than go all the way and win a blue.

Anyway, rant over. Well done Mel!

People don't like contestants dealing the third offer because as soon as the word deal is uttered, the game is already over. There is nothing good about watching proveout rounds because:

1) There is some possibility of a Noel rant (which I personally like, but people don't)
2) There is a possibility of a £250,000 sell off which makes for horrible viewing. I hate people selling £250,000 boxes. It's come to the table about 15 if not more times, and one person has managed to win it. It's sick when people deal when it's still there, especially with such massive back ups like yesterday.
3) Proveout rounds offer no tension, unless it gets down to a 'possible £250,000 selloff stage' which it's always tense seeing if the player has blown £250,000.

All of the following reasons are incentives for the viewer to switch off after such an early deal.

At least with a blue win we get excitment. And that is what it boils down to at the end of the day. Viewers want exciting shows even if it means a massive gamble at the end going wrong to win a blue. The show is not there for people to win the most money, primarily. It is there to attract viewers from other channels, with exciting games and big wins. It will not attract viewers if the show was as crap as yesterdays. I've only spoken to 10 people today about last night's game. All opinions were negative.

I concur with all this and I to agree with Noels rants hes only saying what were all thinking.
The only fun of the proveout after is the inflated offers and to see if they blown the 250K they deserve to when they deal at such a stupid time for the board.
A third offer deal leading to blowing the 250K box is innevitable it will happen eventually.

That's the problem with have 1 game per show. If it were like the US version, we wouldn't have this problem - for example people don't turn off Millionaire just because someone doesn't get to the £1m question.

correct me if i'm wrong is all the current women on the show fancy the pants off noel did nel want to take noel home with her?but she did well & played with coution. i think this show is turning in to date noel or don't date noel

I really liked Mel during her game but I was kinda shocked when she dealt the 3rd offer, which even though it was a nice offer the stability of the board was very good, which is why I wasn't expecting such an early deal.

But as always this game can dramatically change from being in your favour to the Banker's. In this case though it would of remained in Mel's favour, but I agree that the proveout offers did seem rather inflated. So Mel never lost out on really massive money but just a "few" grand.

Also an interesting observation (well it's not really) I made was that this episode was on average a minute shorter compared to other epsiodes. Mel's game ran for 34:08 instead of the usual 35:10 - 35:40. I'm not sure why it was over a minute shorter and whether it had anything to do with the eary deal or not?

Also the only reason I spotted this (I don't actually sit there timing the episodes ) is that since the start of the month I have been recording all episodes onto my DVD recorder's hard drive and then transfering the episodes to DVD after I have cut the adverts out. Every episode that i've transfered so far has always been over 35 minutes, so I just found it interesting that an early deal meant a shorter show.

that is interesting

Well I find it equally as bad when people gamble to the end through some big offers to just win 1p.

You have to remember these are real people with real lives who can use real money, so being realistic many people can't afford to gamble the real offers right infront of them. It shouldn't be about people going to the end, it should be about people winning money that means a lot to them. If you only find it exciting when people gamble to the end then there isn't really much point on watching the show seeing as the only people that have gambled to the end have had a trainwreck. I'd like to see you on the show and Not Deal every offer then see if you still thing that no dealing was the best to do.

Not necessarily. It shouldn't ALL be about people going to the end. It should be about a good amount of people taking risks and some of those people, going to the end. We are having too many targetists which makes the game boring. We need to balance that out with gamblers and people going to the end. We are not having that which makes the show boring.

By all means, too many gamblers would be boring. But too little gamblers would be equally as boring. We are getting the latter.

While Mel obviously dealt too early in most people's eyes, she still got £20k which she seems to have been her target and she was happy with, so she'll consider herself a winner.

By the way she can do my funeral when it comes!!!

Exactly. Nicely said!