Pat's game today.

Pat has box 12 today, and it is covered in bears and her pictures!! Pat is from Dudley and Noel pronounces it in a Birmingham accent... Pat has her husband in the audience for support, and they have been married for 30 years... Pat has a little cuddly monkey for the Banker that makes a monkey noise Pat's other bear plays a tune which she wants to dedicate to all her fellow contestants on the wings, and Noel feigns sadness before asking if she has ever seen her bear fly!!


Here we go...

Here's hoping for a great game!

Round 1

10 - £ 750 Nic

3 - £35,000 Geoff - That is not nice says Noel...

9 - £100 Mark

16 - £75,000 Shaun

2 - £5 John

Banker time

Mixed start...

The banker asks if everyone is in good spirits, and Noel replies that they all are... The banker says that is the most hiddeous horrible bear he has ever seen, and asks Pat's husband how long he has been married to it!! The banker says that Pat is in the hall of fame for the only contestant to reveal that they haven't been wearing any knickers on 2 occasions!!!

Banker offers

£7,200 + Draught Excluder!!

Pat's husband say he likes the idea of a draught excluder and Noel asks if he would put it on the front or back door

Pat says

NO DEAL

Next round

5 - £250,000 Viv

17 - 10p Sue

Pat says she would love a break, and Noel says that millions of us hate the break, but we would prefer it to Pat's singing bear which he starts playing

Haha!

Shame about the £250,000 going but there is still good money there!

Is the Black Widow of 2008 so far going to bring a blue to the table?

Pretty ugly start by all accounts, although those low reds might help!!

We're back
Last box before the banker...
Noel says he has taken the battery out of the bear

6 - £3,000 Ben


Banker time

Too many reds going...

The banker plays the sound of the monkey down the phone and says he made that noise when the £250,000 went!!

Banker offers

£3,600

Pat says it's still a good offer

Pat says

NO DEAL

That should be easy to no-deal

Next round

15 - £250 Ferno

Noel tells Pat she needs to liven up as she is giving the wrong impression to the banker at the moment. Pat livens up and Noel says "Me and my big mouth!!"

19 - 50p Adie

1 - £50 Angie

A much needed all blue round

Banker time

Pat forgets how many boxes she has opened and asks Noel for a break She then decides to drink her mug of tea...


Banker offers

£11,000

Pat turns to her husband who says he thinks she should go at least another round...

Pat says

NO DEAL

Next round

Noel wants the 1p now...

18 - 1p Semi - Semi delivers and Noel dances with the singing bear before throwing it at the contestants!!

20 - £1,000 Simon

If this next one is a blue you will be into some serious money says Noel...

Pat picks box 22 with Nikki next, but Noel tells Pat that 22 does have some big money and it's also his lucky number and he's worried about her picking it... He then calls a break...

Only two of the power 5, and not including the biggie, but that block of four below is very much influential. Certainly enough to warrant a ND at £11,000.

Only three blues left as we go into the break, where did this come from?

We're back
Last box before the banker

The bear is on the phone to the banker!!

22 - £1 Nikki

Banker time

JEEZ! What a turnaround!!!

This is looking very good indeed. Should get her a decent offer.

Blimey where has this come from?

Two blues, the £5k-20k block, £50k and £100k!

Mean's £25k and pocket change; I'd be looking for £20,000 I think.

You could be on your way to one of the most amazing turnarounds ever says Noel... Pat asks if she can talk to the banker, and he agrees... "Hello my darling" goes Pat, and says that he has a very sexy voice... Noel warns her to hang up if he starts the breathing thing Pat tells the banker he is more filthy than she is

Noel wonders what they were talking about, and tells him it was about her knickers or lack of wearing them!!

Banker offers

£17,000

Looking very nice!

Stats after Round 4
Offer: £17,000
Mean: £25,063.75
Offer (%): 67.83%
Fair Deal: £15,623.88
Volatility: 0.99
Redometer: 28

Board





£10



£500



£5,000
£10,000
£15,000
£20,000

£50,000

£100,000

The board is too good to deal at that I reckon. There's another round in there without too much risk.

Her hubby's come down, game over!

Might not be...

I'd play on here given the stability. Might not take much more to get me going though.

Hope she does well

Pat asks Shaun what he thinks, and he thought the offer would be higher than that... Pat then calls her husband down, and then she tells Noel how she would like to spend the money on other people and her husband can have a new telescope... Noel says it's a great situation on the board at the moment, and she would be very unlucky to take out all the high numbers on the board next round...

Pat says

DEAL

What a cop out. Pathetic.

How come I always know when a person is going to say deal that look in their eye

pretty timid

Get out while you can and while you're happy. A valid approach, and I've seen many worse deals than that, but I think the stability would have pushed me on. We'll see...

The banker calls back and plays the monkey down the phone again!! He says she has blown it now, and it should have been thousands more...


Proveout round

14 - £20,000 Dot

You've got to find the £100,000 says Noel...

7 - £500 Mel - NO NO NO NO says Noel

This must be the £100,000 says Noel

11 - £10,000 Laura

Banker time

He's going to have fun now says Noel....

Banker would have offered

£31,000

£31k.

Serves her right.

Argghhh

Stats after Round 5
Offer: £31,000
Mean: £34,002.00
Offer (%): 91.17%
Fair Deal: £21,678.56
Volatility: 1.43
Redometer: 20

Board
£10
£5,000
£15,000
£50,000
£100,000

Never in a month of Sundays....

£31,000's inflated. The TV's off now.

That'd be me out I think.

While I'd have played on, there is absolutely no need to turn this bit into an extended advert for gambling.

Next proveout

13 - £10 Woodsy

8 - £100,000 Claire

21 - £50,000 Bing

Banker time with £5,000 and £15,000 remaining

Just the one too soon, not too bad...

Stats after Round 6
Offer: £9,000
Mean: £10,000.00
Offer (%): 90.00%
Fair Deal: £9,330.13
Volatility: 3.00
Redometer: 8

Board

£5,000
£15,000

You are so horrible, Pat is a lovely lady who wanted £17,000 so she dealt. Shes not somebody who treats money like its an object that can easily be thrown away.

Well done Pat on £17,000, Enjoy the money!

Banker would have offered

£9,000

Pat says she would have gone for it there...

Noel opens box 12 and reveals £5,000

Box 4 - Richie contains the £15,000

Real offer would surely have been £26,000. I suppose we should be glad he didn't offer that...

And I'm not so sure I'd have taken £26,000 with only one blue, so she possibly did better than I would!!

Well done, Pat despite the inflated offer...

Well done Pat

OK even in real time proveout she copped out, but it would never have been £31,000!!! Never!

Well done Pat!

Well done Pat, £17,000 is not a bad day's work.

Was a poor deal. Even taking out the top three would still have given an offer of 4-5k. Still 17 grand is 17 grand.

I shall miss you Pat you've been a good contestant and come across as a bit of a character but also a really nice lady, hope you enjoy the money.

Weak deal again especially for the board although the 31K was lies it woulda been 26k probably.

I don't think the 31k was overly high - the banker would have needed to cover the 50k v 15k, and even the 50k v 5k possibilities so i think high 20s would have been about right. The only reason it could have been less is that Pat's demeanour - she seemed the exact opposite of MJ.

It didn't have me throwing things at the TV like they sometimes do!

The show, like Pat herself, could best be described as pleasant enough but a bit unexciting. The game had developed after a poorish start to a board with both strength an depth and we had the prospect of an exciting big money finish.

Once the £17k was offered I just think she saw ££££s and didn't give the board even the most cursory analysis. Grab the money and run. I accept that not everybody is a rabid no-dealer like me but I would of thought that anyone going onto a gambling show wouldn't be adverse to taking a small risk especially as they are in a no-lose situation. Even the most prudent of players would have thought there was another round in it. At worst she would have got an offer well into the thousands and at best............ well we saw what happened.

And as for the pathetic dancing and jigging when the £100k and £50k were revealed (as if that makes a feeble deal and a missed golden opportunity alright) - words fail me.

I liked Pat and enjoyed her game but I did think there was at least one more round in it (which there proved to be). However I was also expecting an offer of £26,000 at 5-box and so i'm not sure if £31,000 would of been offered in active play. But who knows with the Banker as his offers do tend to vary.

However as with any board it could easily go one of two ways and despite Noel trying to encourage Pat she decided to take the safe option and deal and in the end it wasn't the biggest disaster ever and Pat seemed happy with the £17,000 so well done Pat

Pat was a great character during her time on the wings and i congratulate her on winning £17,000. That's a lovely amount of money.

I personally wouldn't have gone at that point [first time this week i would have done something different compared to what the contestant did] but well done nonetheless!

I think I'm the only one who thought 31k was about right for the board. After MJ's 41k offer, anything's possible!

you were not in the chair,i could have gone with a blue like Mark yesterday.try to get on the show as a contestant and we will see how you do.

how can you not like someone if you have never met them,jealousy will get you know where,since my game the phone has not stopped ringing from people full of compliments about my GAMES.im not short of supporters.

Nooo... I didn't turn the TV off because you dealt, in fact I was happy for you winning £17,000. I turned it off because I was annoyed about the £31,000 offer in the proveout probably being more than it would have been in active play.

I had nothing against you or the deal, it was just the over-inflated offer afterwards that I didn't like.

Well done Pat. You were a super contestant and hope you enjoy teh £17,000.

Well Done for beating the banker Pat!

It made me chuckle, Noel was putting you on a guilt trip, then you wiped out the £100k and the £50k and he shut up! It was hilarious!

Here are a couple of piccies.

Hello Pat, hope your well, youve got another supporter here for you Pat!

I was dissapointed the guilt trip was cut short I enjoy watching the over inflated offers it provides comic relief!

They provide annoyance.

Its just laughably bad but I do condone it when people deserve it ie 250k squanderers and people like Steven March last yr.

Maggie, i dont know why silly little people like u think its ok to dislike someone because they didnt do omething perhaps you would have, when or if you ever get in the chair u will realise that there is more to it than just sayin deal or no deal! Different people need to deal for their own personal reasons even if there is still a lot to play for so please do not judge someon u have not met and are clearly jelous of!! It really is Pathetic!!

They ruin the show and rattle the contestants. They need to go.

Pat, there is another supporter here!

Don't take notice of people on this site who are saying negative things, they haven't met you in real life so they don't need to state it.

Sorry, i agree with you no way was the banker going to offer me 31k i really enjoyed the showand my phone hasnt stopped ringing all night with people congratulating me.Want to come to Brighton?

I was out at 4:15 and recorded the show, but read about it on here before I watched it. I wasn't really sure what to expect, but I'm up to the third offer so far and I have found Pat to be amusing and I like her. She was good on the wings, and I was looking forward to her game and it hasn't disappointed so far.

The deal was a bit faulty, but it was one of those boards were a cautious player or a targetist is going to deal, so she can't be criticised too much. However, I'd have won £31,000 (or whatever the 5-box offer would really have been, probably £26k) by dealing the fifth offer.

Hi hun i don,t take notice of the jealous ones i only like nice people.Want to join us in Brighton?

i got on well with everyone and all the dond crowd have rang me to say how they enjoyed my game and the fun i gave to them throughout there stay Thanks for your support.Pat.xxx

I've just finished watching the show and it was indeed overall an enjoyable show. I thought Noel was going OTT in proveout - the way he said it'd be a disaster if she took out blues... then over-hyped the £31,000 offer and again saying about it being a disaster. A bad deal, yes, but I do not call winning £17,000 and missing out on £14,000 a "disaster" as Noel called it by any means!

thanks for the pics at least someone likes me out there.Pat. xxxxxxxx

I shouldn't take too much notice of the comments by the odd few Pat - the forum has just over 2000 members, just about the right size for a village. And, as you will know, every village needs its idiot...

£17000 is a great sum of money. In our own fictional way, some of us might have played the game a bit differently but, whatever, you've been a great character on the wings and I hope you enjoy every penny.

Thank you clive i would give anything to go back i miss you all so much,all my love.Pat.xxxxxx

Hi, my dear friend,its a pity this village has more than one idiot,they spoil it for the norms, thank you i will enjoy every penny.Pat xxxx

Hi Pat

I was looking forward to this game and wasn't disappointed.

Well done....and enjoy the £ 17k.


Jim

It was a terrible start to the game but what a great turnaround! The deal was understandable but the £31k wasnt.... Great game and quite funny!

Well done Pat!

What's all this talk about Brighton?

They're all coming to see me. Didn't you know H?

the crowd that were on the week before xmas and about 20 of the crowd that are still remaining all know each otherand we have all arranged to have a get together in Brighton.Pat.

Hi Pat, I really liked you on the wings and I loved your game today, with the singing bear, the flirting with Noel and the monkey for the banker!

It's amazing how a few people can somehow think that £17,000 is a bad result- I bet they'd love to have even half that in their bank account!!!!

I thought you played the game with a lovely attitude, and your words at the end about how much it had meant to you were beautiful.

It's easy to sit at home with a cup of tea and judge when it's not your own money at stake- as you say, let them sit in the crazy chair and see what happens!

Well done and enjoy the money and the friends you've made.

The Duffer,s not coming he knows nothing about it.WHO IS HE? WE DON,T KNOW HIM.

Well done Pat. £17K is not to be taken lightly. In my opinion, it was one of those offers that both answers could have been justified.

You were right about talking about winning a blue. That would have been the real disaster, not winning £17K and probably only would have been offered another £9K if you had gone on.

Hi, i had the time of my life and met the best crowd of people ive ever known,we keep in touch all the time.I will enjoy my money as Brian and i are going to do a lot of travelling abroard,i don,t worry about the few sad ones.

Thank,s Taff your a true friend and i will enjoy my money and all of the friends i met on the show who keep in touch all of the time.

Oooooh, that is what the Brighton subject was about.

It would be lovely to come except I'm not a contestant

Hi ya Pat,
You made a really good game! Well done! :D
You seemed nervous at first, thats understandable (arent we all!) but after a couple of rounds you got in the swing of things.
I dont think people realise the emotion, tension etc that we all experience when playing dond for real, as we all know its very easy sitting in our chairs yelling at the screen but it is totally different when sitting on the crazy chair :P
£17k is an amazing amount of money, and I wish you and Brian great fun spending it!
by the way, we cant make Brighton got another function to attend! tt!
Will see you all at the next reunion x x x x x
Pat (Patricia)

While I wouldn't have done the same that was a long, long way from being the worst decision in the history of the game. Many more decisions - both Deals and No Deals - have caused me to roll my eyes in disbelief. Yours wasn't one of them.

And even though I thought it was a fairly clear No Deal to me I don't think it would have taken much more for me to Deal. And you were quite right for pointing out the real disaster would have been a blue win, and your dignity in the face of a virtual character assassination from Noel - aided and abetted by a hypothetical offer that was clearly five grand higher than the one you would have received in active play - is to be applauded.

In that toxic environment - with Noel sermonising for roughly six hours of taping per day, five days a week - it takes courage (of a different sort to the one Noel speaks of) to play your game rather than the producers'. You had that. It must be so easy to be sucked into recklessness in that environment given that it is so clearly encouraged - and we only see 45 minutes per day, you were seeing about eight times that!

I had done 28 games and i have seen them fall apart at the blink of an eye,everyone i have spoken to enjoyed my game,why don,t you take the plunge and apply to be a contestant then you will see what i say is correct.im not a greedy person and im not short of money but as you say not everyone is a rabid no-dealer like yourself untill you get in the chair.

Haha, yes, I know I'm not coming Pat, I just live in Brighton, that's all! I'll make sure I'm out of town that weekend!

I was a little nervous at first its so different in the chair to behind the boxes as you your self know,i was very happy with 17k i have seen so many games turn to disaster,we worked a lot of long hours but boy what a wonderful time we had with all those wonderful people. Sorry you can,t make Brighton maybe the next get together.Love Pat xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Hi Simon,i was very happy with what i won,what if i had taken the other reds out,i would,nt have had that offer again,i have seen so much disaster while i did those 28 shows,i did,nt want it to happen to me,i am happy ,it,s not every day someone drops 17k in your hand especially when youv,e had the time of your life.Best wishes.Pat. xx

Well done on the £17k Pat! Spend it wisely! I really enjoyed you're game, it was great fun to watch. I was hoping that you'd surprise us all and win the £250k! What was the song that the singing teddy kept singing?

Hi Nikki what you must remember is like one of my fans said(EVERY VILLAGE HAS AN IDIOT)

Was the teddy song not called "thats what friends are for" ?


Jim

Glad i don,t have many friends like you ,i would,nt need any enemies, glad you,v got nothing better to do with your time than make childish remarks, you certainly would,nt fit in with the dond crowd,they are all nice people and watch out for each other.How sad you are.

what a pity,its your loss,if i could have invited you i would have done but i can,t tell the world about it ,you do understand.

Hi, seen so many games turn sour at the blink of an eye,that was,nt going to happen to me,i was happy with 17k i really only went for the fun,which i certainly had, so the money was a bonus.

Hi, it was, and the dond crowd were the best crowd of people i have ever met.we keep in touch every day and we are there for each other,thats what friends are for.

Bwhaaahaaaahaaaaaaaahahaaaaaaaahaha

takes deep breath

haaaahaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaha.

Your spamming the forum trying to make your pathetic greedy deal look respectable is laughable. You bottled out. End of. Get over it.

Fair enough, It was not such a bad deal saying it was weak was a bit harsh watching it again, but I personally felt there was more in it than that and would have gone on but im a total gambler.
I would always continue with 3 amounts higher too.
But like I said don't worry about the 31K so much thats a pack of lies I reckon you would have got the 26K offer.

It seems to be a offer we have to have in every game these days when the board allows it.

Hi, im glad your pleased for me i had a great time.The song was called (Thats what friends are for)Pat.

i have got over it i have just booked a world cruise for my huband and i.Sicko I won,t be worrying about your childish comments.

Lots of people have mentioned something to Pat and she's taken it upon herself to reply individually to each one. I, personally, think that's quite sweet.

And I say that as someone who would certainly have played on.

Hi, i like to reply to everyone who takes the trouble to write to me, and i would like to thank you very much,sometimes its a little difficult with some people they tend to be a little sarcastic .Best wishesPat.ps hope you enjoyed my show there are some good ones to follow.

Dont take the flack too personally Pat. The vast majority here seem to like you. Its easy to knock people who deal, but watching in an armchair at home could never be the same as playing for real and knowing its real money on the table. I hope you and your hubby have great fun spending the winnings.

(PS Remember to keep warm! I cant help but wonder what conversations were cut out of your show.)

Hey Pat

Although I never tuned into your game today as I had work until 7pm

I am disgusted by some peoples attitude on the forum about your game and the deal

17k is alot of money and if that was your exit fee who are they to question it

Have a lovely time travelling the world

Ah, Pat, everyone has their comfort zone. You were in yours, you dealt.

I think we ALL know that the offer would have been 26K or less, not 31k.

Honestly, would the 9k have made you any happier?

(BTW, Hi Nikki! You remind me of someone I had a crush on in High School. Those were the days.....)

basicasic

you seem to be a very bitter and nasty individual. You must also be extremely rich if you think 17K is so easily dismissed.

Either stop your spiteful remarks or get off the board. There's a line to be drawn between criticism of a a game and personal insults and I think you're stepping over it.

If you ever do get to be a contestant- although I doubt you'd pass the audition, because you have to be able to get on with people- I'm sure you'll find it's much more difficult when real money is at stake.

Yes, I disagreed with the deal as well. it was a good board with only 2 blues on it and even if 1 or 2 big ones had been taken out there could have been a 9/10K offer which is a calculated risk, there's no point going OTT about it though.

Basicasic, you are one of the nastiest, most spiteful individuals I've ever talked to, just because you would have something different to Pat, no need to start insulting her.

Pat, I thought you did the right decision for you, and I hope you managed to do the things you wanted with the money. Like KP said, I think you replying to every message is very sweet of you.

Well done on your £17k win Pat, I can't believe some of the posts here slagging you off for it - a lot of nasty jealous people out there.
Although with hindsight you will know you could have done better, I'm sure you're delighted with your win and you did produce quite an entertaining show at the same time.
Enjoy your winnings!

This is probably the most interesting "today's show" thread for a long while. What basicasic said may be a bit harsh (although he did say earlier that he found Pat to be pleasant enough, so he's probably criticising her deal more than her). I don't understand how the people criticising Pat could be seen to be "jealous" though... as they're criticising Pat's deal when she dealt too soon. So they're not going to be jealous of someone who dealt too soon. They could be jealous of someone winning £17,000 but I don't think the particular candidates in this thread do display signs of jealousy normally.

Also whilst it is nice that Pat won a good sum of money, DOND is at the end of the day a show where you do have to take a bit of a risk and gamble sometimes. Pat's decision was fair enough, but we have had a lot of "targetists" recently who seem to be dealing at cautious times. Again, this is fair enough, but targetists are going to bore those who like to see some risk-taking on DOND.

I think DOND is about variety and decision-making. A week of wins under £10,000 would be boring, as would a week of all wins above £35,000. So would a week of targetists all dealing at the first offer above £20,000. An ideal DOND week for me would be someone dealing early and it being the right thing to do, someone being reckless and it working, someone dealing too soon, someone being reckless and it going wrong, and somebody being a bit cautious to ensure they won their target.

I agree with that. generally - just gets annoying when we're in a everyone wins 10-20K phase. it would have been an easy calcualted risk to go on one more round with only 2 blues on the board.
I just like to see folk at least take a few risks on good boards.

H makes some good points, and I would sum those up as 'I wish we could swap this game with one from January 2007 where nearly everyone took dubious risks'!

I agree, although for me it's less about having variety in the amounts won and more about having a variety of different attitudes and personalities playing the game. If somebody makes a decision that is different from the one I'd have made, I don't think 'that's not what I'd have done therefore that player is a fool'. Instead I think 'that's not what I'd have done -- that's interesting, I wonder what their reasons were'.

The game needs cautious 8-box dealers just as much as it needs reckless gamblers.

hi, what if i had taken out the 50k and the100k in the next round,17k was a good offer,even you have seen it happen so many times 17k is real money.

hi my friend thank you for your support very grateful best wishes to you Pat

You know how you like someone when they're on the TV....

Hmm, just a thought.

hi, thank you for your support,i had the most wonderful time on dond and made so many new friends,Noel was a pleasure to work with even though he said he had given me some stick over the weeks and i gave as much back and enjoyed it,pity it has to be edited.hope i don,t end up on (it will be alright on the night)

Some of you do not realise that Pat applied for a show which millions of people will be watching. Granted, not all those millions are going to be posting on an internet forum but it would take a wrong mind to expect 100% positive opinion about a person or their game on an internet forum. The fact there is only a few negative posters on the board is actually startling. I'm sure places like Digital Spy would wind some of you right up...

Regarding the game, I too like 'alexandercbrown' dislike these 20k targetists, where board strength and stability are placed to one side when their target appears and they play the offers, not the board. With hindsight, she could have had more but it was odds on for a higher offer. So surely a higher offer is what we should have expected, both before and after the deal. Maybe a statistician on the wings would be of use to inform players that the board is worth playing on, not abandoning.

Hi,take a look at mark e,s game, good offers,did he deal?no he provided entertainment for the millions watching and went home with £500 i went with 17k

Without hindsight Mark made a good choice and with and without hindsight you made a bad one, if that makes sense!

The thing is, for Endemol it is much better for millions to be entertained and one person leaving with say £500, because the viewers were entertained seeing a gamble taking place full of tension, suspense etc.

At the end of the day if the show doesn't acheive good enough viewing figures no one else would be able to play for up to £250,000 because the show would be axed due to lack of viewing. It's gambles going wrong that keeps the show alive in some respects. It gives us variety. I'd rather half a week of deals and the other half with gambles than a full week of deals at £17,500 or whatever.

You did win more than Mark E, however without hindsight he could have won £250,000. Without hindsight in your game Pat, the best outcome would have only been a blue in the box and a banker ing. Is that really important?

Hi,most people seemed to have found my game entertaining,had i have had the £250.000 in throughout my game i would have gone to the end but i did.nt so i went when i thought the time was right, it was,nt a boring show so most people were happy.so was i.

I really liked you through all the shows Pat and was really looking forward to your game. I enjoyed your game too, you seem like a great character. However you have started to irritate me a little on this forum. Of course the people you have spoke to enjoyed your game - they all know you, but just accept that some people here may have differing opinions on what makes a good or bad game.

Sorry if i have started to irritate you i don,t mean to but there are a few people on this forum cant,say a good word about anyone ,look through them all and you will see what i mean, and as for someone saying they hated me,they have never met me ,perhaps they did,nt like me taking home 17k.most of the people on the forum don,t know me but have enjoyed my game.

Aye I know what you're saying Pat, some people are bitter and will be jealous that you had made it onto the show (I'll admit I certainly am, I have applied to be on the show myself, but have unfortunately not heard anything as of yet). Anyway, I really do wish you well and am really pleased that you have taken a respectable amount of money - I always find it a real shame when players I really like wait forever to get their game and then don't get a worthy prize, Orry for example.

Only in your opinion. Mark's eight-box (heck, eleven-box) offer was arguable either way, we'll never know if he was truly reckless to be honest.



But if everyone gambled, there'd be no shock value or excitement in the No Deals. I daresay people tend to watch for the decisions, or am I being hopelessly naive?



Ratings tumbled (though from a very high base) in the first three months of 2007, where almost everyone was gambling. They recovered in May, where almost nobody was.



Now that I will agree with. A week of gambles would be just as dull.



And the worst outcome for Pat would have been selling £100,000 for 'only' £17,000. I, for one, would still consider that better than a crash to £500...

Hi"ShanO"glad that your pleased for me, hope you get on the show, its like a perfect world and im glad i was part of it. Good luck my friend.

I'm watching your game on S4C now Pat, and I'm really enjoying it. I'm really pleased you won 17k.

Thank,s Greeny your a pal, there are some lovely people on this forum that have been pleased for me and enjoyed my show and so many people have stopped me in the street that i did,nt know to congratulate me it was amazing.

that is how us deal or no dealers imagined you to lookhahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahaha.

Hehehe.

Dream on my friend.

I don't think he had any thoughts of leaving at the third offer, most people don't nowadays. In my opinion the 8 box offer wasn't tempting.



Someone mentioned in this thread earlier, 'the game needs cautious 8-box dealers just as much as it needs reckless gamblers.' A very true statement, but come on. There has been far more 8 box dealers than there has been reckless gambers. We need more reckless gamblers based on that idea. That's what some people (basicasic) are getting at. I'm sure he doesn't want a week full of reckless gambles, but he doesn't want a week of dealing either. We are getting quite a lot of the latter, which pisses him off, clearly. And me too in respects.

Interesting. I think the ratings recovered in May due to characters, and bizzarely, gimmicks. I remember that month full of them.



Yep, I agree. I don't want a full week of reckless gambles. I want half a week of reckless gambles, even one show of reckless gambling. We still never get that, we have too much dealing which is the balance that needs tipping, not over done.



Suppose, theres different ways of looking at it.

I don't imagine him like that

I expected a far less articulate and well-considered response than that. I'm impressed.

And indeed am with Pat for caring so much (some would say too much) about us, who are the viewers keeping this show going after all (well, a very small and vocal subset thereof, but still) - I really appreciate that.

Are there more eight-box Deals than big gambles? I'm not sure. The exact ratio is probably a matter of personal preference too. What I will say is that setting the mix is the responsibility of whoever's picking the contestants - not the contestants themselves, not the Banker's offers (well, possibly the Banker's offers, but I'm a bit queasy about that), and definitely not Noel! Players should make their own decisions. If this is leading to a situation where every game's going to the end (January 2007) or ending early (May 2007?) that's not their problem, it's Endemol's.

Glad to hear it, KP.

It depends how you class 'big gambles' upon intensity. Reckless gambles, I can count on one hand from last year, such as Di and Graeme; one going wrong and the other paying off. Less further down on the scale, we have Orry no dealing, was it £23,000? Yes, he turned down what a targetist may classify as walking money to win a quid... and not to discount the fact he previously turned down fourty-one thousand pounds to win that same pound... it wasn't a reckless gamble with the one-to-open principle.

I'm sure people in general would like to see boards like Kathleen's gambled on with its immaculate strength matched with a shocking offer rather than an actual deal. £45,000 is one hell of a sum of money but that would be playing the offers. There is still a fortune to play for and with the stats on hand, it turns out the offer was 30k less than someone who played quite recently Gaz. That links back to my statistician point yesterday. Perhaps the banker could provide reliable statistics on hand? Or would the player disregard them as nonsense as they are coming from the 'opposition'?

Hi Pat

They call it the dream factory as the contestants are given the chance to win money to fulfill their dreams and £17k will certainly help you have your dream world cruise so it proves it was the right deal for you.

Enjoy the cruise when it comes.


Jim

i would like to thank you so much for your comments, you have kept all of my friends and i so amused we have laughted intil we have cried.i hope you get in the chair one day it will be great to see you open the box on your table to see what you reveal ,boy what suspence, best of luck

thanks jim i,m off soon,hope good luck comes your way Pat.x.x.x

Where are you going on your cruise, Pat?

We have decided to go on a cruise to south america for a month i just wish i could take all of the dond crowd with me ,i love them so much.The offer is still on for Brighton my friend, some of the dond crowd from the begining of last year are joining us,it looks like our crowd are growing even more.Pat.