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JohnBristol1966

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:16 pm    Author: JohnBristol1966    Post subject: Re: 31/08 Ady
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cfd wrote:
Charles wrote:
BankerSpanker wrote:
THIRD OFFER DEAL with EIGHT REDS?!!

I don't care what you know who says, that was a rubbish offer.


That is just nonsense, it was a generous stick after taking the £100K and £15K.


Nah, it was a pretty poor offer. Very stable board. I'd be wanting £25k+ there.

Well pitched by the banker it has to be said.


When will people understand how offers work? How can the offer be "poor" if the player deals? The offer is always tailored to the player, hence there is no set tariff. If the player deals, then the banker got the offer spot on! A "bad" offer would be offering £25k+ when the player would have dealt at £17k!!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:47 pm    Author: cfd    Post subject: Re: 31/08 Ady

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JohnBristol1966 wrote:
cfd wrote:
Charles wrote:
BankerSpanker wrote:
THIRD OFFER DEAL with EIGHT REDS?!!

I don't care what you know who says, that was a rubbish offer.


That is just nonsense, it was a generous stick after taking the £100K and £15K.


Nah, it was a pretty poor offer. Very stable board. I'd be wanting £25k+ there.

Well pitched by the banker it has to be said.


When will people understand how offers work? How can the offer be "poor" if the player deals? The offer is always tailored to the player, hence there is no set tariff. If the player deals, then the banker got the offer spot on! A "bad" offer would be offering £25k+ when the player would have dealt at £17k!!


Good lord, how hard can this be to understand. Look at the bit where I say:

"Well pitched by the banker it has to be said."

When I (and others) talk about offers there's generally 3 things I'm referring too:
1) Good/Bad - I'm talking about whether it is a mathematically good/bad offer.
2) I then generally make a comment about whether or not I would deal, or where abouts my tipping point is. This may be above/below what is considered a mathematically good offer.
3) And i'll usually make a comment about how the offer relates to the current player.

So the above was a poor (though not bad by any means) offer that nevertheless was a well pitched offer by the banker because he recognised the player was likely to deal below what the board was worth.


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Brick

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:05 pm    Author: Brick    Post subject: Re: 31/08 Ady
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A game similar to Antonia's in many ways - an 11-box deal made with good intentions but for a statistically poor offer. Despite that, I think both sides came out well - the banker read Ady well and was honest in the proveout (we could easily have had Richard-style inflated offers there), while Ady stuck by his decision and didn't get too upset when he found out he could have had more.

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Dr. Hindsight

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:47 am    Author: Dr. Hindsight    Post subject: Re: 31/08 Ady

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Great player, but he dealt way too soon. Third-offer deals have the potential to make or break contestants, and unfortunately, this deal broke Ady. Never mind; I'm willing to bet that there are better shows ahead.

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